Comments on: Jan Moir Tries (And Fails) to Defend the Indefensible http://thethirdestate.net/2009/10/jan-moir-tries-and-fails-to-defend-the-indefensible/ What Is The Third Estate? Everything. What Has It Been Until Now In The Political Order? Nothing. What Does It Want To Be? Something. Mon, 15 Mar 2010 11:16:08 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: MosesO http://thethirdestate.net/2009/10/jan-moir-tries-and-fails-to-defend-the-indefensible/comment-page-1/#comment-4741 MosesO Sun, 18 Oct 2009 09:03:49 +0000 http://thethirdestate.net/?p=2559#comment-4741 Jan Moir's recent article, whilst homophobic in the extreme, was not uniquely hateful. This week, the Ugandan MP David Bahati recently launched an Anti-Homosexuality Bill - yes, it's actually called that - even though homosexuality is already illegal in the state. The bill madates the death penalty for HIV-positive people who engage in sex with people of the same gender, and calls for Uganda to withdraw from all international treaties and conventions which support the rights of lesbians, gays and bisexuals. Full details can be seen here: http://bit.ly/9FFF4. The article also speculates about the motives for the bill, and is an excellent read. Please do have a look, when you have a moment. Jan Moir’s recent article, whilst homophobic in the extreme, was not uniquely hateful. This week, the Ugandan MP David Bahati recently launched an Anti-Homosexuality Bill – yes, it’s actually called that – even though homosexuality is already illegal in the state. The bill madates the death penalty for HIV-positive people who engage in sex with people of the same gender, and calls for Uganda to withdraw from all international treaties and conventions which support the rights of lesbians, gays and bisexuals.

Full details can be seen here: http://bit.ly/9FFF4. The article also speculates about the motives for the bill, and is an excellent read. Please do have a look, when you have a moment.

]]> By: Salman Shaheen http://thethirdestate.net/2009/10/jan-moir-tries-and-fails-to-defend-the-indefensible/comment-page-1/#comment-4731 Salman Shaheen Sat, 17 Oct 2009 18:39:34 +0000 http://thethirdestate.net/?p=2559#comment-4731 I certainly can't find anywhere where she is on record supporting civil partnerships. Even if does support them that means very little. Her fellow Mail hatemonger, Richard Littlejohn, supports civil partnerships. His philosophy essentially boils down to 'I hate the gays and I hate what they do, but I support their right to do it.' That's not an anti-homophobic position. I certainly can’t find anywhere where she is on record supporting civil partnerships. Even if does support them that means very little. Her fellow Mail hatemonger, Richard Littlejohn, supports civil partnerships. His philosophy essentially boils down to ‘I hate the gays and I hate what they do, but I support their right to do it.’ That’s not an anti-homophobic position.

]]> By: Neuroskeptic http://thethirdestate.net/2009/10/jan-moir-tries-and-fails-to-defend-the-indefensible/comment-page-1/#comment-4727 Neuroskeptic Sat, 17 Oct 2009 18:23:23 +0000 http://thethirdestate.net/?p=2559#comment-4727 "I think it is mischievous in the extreme to suggest that my article has homophobic and bigoted undertones." That would indeed be mischievous. The homophobia and bigotry was no undertone, it was the main tone. The melody. With a backing harmony of stupid. Incidentally, has anyone checked her claim that she "on the record in supporting the introduction of civil partnerships"? Because it sounds a bit unlikely... “I think it is mischievous in the extreme to suggest that my article has homophobic and bigoted undertones.”

That would indeed be mischievous. The homophobia and bigotry was no undertone, it was the main tone. The melody. With a backing harmony of stupid.

Incidentally, has anyone checked her claim that she “on the record in supporting the introduction of civil partnerships”? Because it sounds a bit unlikely…

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