The Green poppy fundraising has gone to the IRA & Co.

The white poppy like the Green poppy appears to be used as a political band wagon on the back of the appeals helping those that have served and need assistance.
I My disgaree with Wars and other such bloody habits of man kind alas that is not going to help those that are in need of help at this time.

RBL is a Registered Charity No 219279
Neither the white or green poppy are reg charities.

White & even Green poppies appear to be have motives that are political, nothing more, you can do that without desecrating the concept of remembrance or riding on the back of those genuinely supporting those in need of support after conflicts.

Yes have your/our protests and “education” against wars and usless conflicts, but do not denig those that have already paid the price by abusing their sole means of raising funds.

But also, I’m never convinced by the argument that WW2 was a positive example of the functions of the nation state…

Tendai: There may well be a sense in which members of the armed forces *can* legitimately be said to me making a sacrifice, but I don’t think it’s at all the same sense used by the RBL in the passage I quoted. You could also say that teachers, nurses and firefighters make sacrifices of a more or less similar sort to the kind you’re talking about. As to the moral culpability of a soldier who obeys immoral orders from a (military or political) superior, it’s an issue on which I’m pretty much totally agnostic – it seems too strong to say that you lose all your moral agency simply by dint of being in uniform, but I can see how the culture of obeying orders without question might well make it difficult to make informed moral choices at times.

Alex: If sombre reflection on the horrors of war and the poor bastards who get caught up in it was all that the red poppy symbolised, then I’d have absolutely no problem with wearing one. But I don’t think that’s the case. I’m not sure I’d accuse the RBL of glorifying war, but
claiming that the British soldiers who died in all or most of the conflicts we’ve been involved in from WWI up to now ‘made the ultimate sacrifice to protect their country’ is clearly going a step further than merely reflecting on how terrible war is – it’s making an implicit judgment about the rightness of those wars, and it’s a judgment that in many cases I strongly disagree with.

The symbol of the red poppy was chosen because of the poppies that grew in the fields where the first world war had been fought. Rather than glorifying this war, its association with this conflict has always reminded me of its horrors and the courage of the men and women involved all wars.

I don’t think the tone of remembrance services can truthfuly be said to glorify war. Quiet, sombre reflections on periods of conflict, death and suffering? Yes. Celebrations of violence and military glory? Not really.

Wearing a red poppy doesn’t mean that you agree with the reasons for each and every war. Just that, for one day, you’re remembering the people who fought and died in terrible circumstances, on whatever side.

Many people join the military for all sorts of reasons, but one of them is not to die for your country, people want to live.

But the red poppy is simple a Charity was once made to allow people seriously injured to make poppies to sell , now of course most of the poppies are what made in China or Pakistan and sold here as more and more of the Remploy factories close the meaning has become, how to make money. What do you now do with the money you make, if it’s is to help the injured the mental scars then fine, if it’s about remembering the dead then sadly thats rubbish we do not remeber the dead, I bet the kids to day could not even remember who was running the dam country, they know Hitler was evil and Churchill was a great leader who saved the UK ask them to name a dead solider they say I’ve no idea.

poppies have lost the appeal it once had, but the meaning of helping the thousands of troops badly scared live a life is worthy

red pink white blue I do not believe in the stupid comment of you will remeber them , they are dead and gone, if you do not like this do not go to war, but the people who live on , living in a world that politicians cannot or will not help except with grand looking offers of millions given to the wrong area. I give to help the damaged