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	<title>Comments on: What The Guardian&#8217;s Banned From Telling You</title>
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	<description>What Is The Third Estate? Everything. What Has It Been Until Now In The Political Order? Nothing. What Does It Want To Be? Something.</description>
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		<title>By: An unholy alliance: The Media, the State and Big Business By William Bowles &#171; Dandelion Salad</title>
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		<dc:creator>An unholy alliance: The Media, the State and Big Business By William Bowles &#171; Dandelion Salad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 13:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] For more information on how the entire story finally made the news see for example ‘What The Guardian’s Banned From Telling You’, The Third Estate 12 October, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] For more information on how the entire story finally made the news see for example ‘What The Guardian’s Banned From Telling You’, The Third Estate 12 October, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Carter-Ruck Solicitors vs. Freedom of the Press &#171; Only Dreaming</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carter-Ruck Solicitors vs. Freedom of the Press &#171; Only Dreaming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] coverage by: The Guardian, Guido Fawkes, Next Left, The Spectator, The Third Estate, Iain Dale, Boing Boing, The [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] coverage by: The Guardian, Guido Fawkes, Next Left, The Spectator, The Third Estate, Iain Dale, Boing Boing, The [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Roderick Russell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roderick Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 21:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have knowledge of a situation back in 2005 when The Guardian was not quite so interested in opposing press self-censorship as it is today. It is described on a wiki whose URL is:

http://zerzetzen.wikispaces.com 

You only have to look at what happened when my wife and I visited The Guardian’s offices in Manchester back in 2005 to complain about the government cover-up and human rights abuse that we write about (years of defamation, intimidation, death threats by MI5/6 being covered-up by government).

2 hours after we left The Guardian’s office, my wife and I were threatened in the name of HRH. The following weekend my eldest son, then living in Birmingham, received a number of telephone death threats which he recorded and a vehicle was smashed into my apartment then in Didsbury, Manchester. The Guardian subsequently “lost” all the correspondence I had handed them as evidence (it alleges then Minister Hazel Blears’ involvement with the cover-up – and copies of some of it are on the wiki – including a confirmatory letter to me from The Guardian’s Editor). A month later in the middle of the night my son was woken up by a helicopter that was hovering right beside his bedroom window, and a year later shots were fired at him in front of witnesses. You can imagine what having her children threatened for 10 years has done to his mother. Now The Guardian had every right not to publish my story, but it seems to me that The Guardian was on the side of the abusers since these little threatening incidents were clearly meant to punish us for going to the Guardian. I had booked my appointment at The Guardian in person, and unless we were followed to The Guardian’s offices, nobody except the paper’s staff knew we had met with them. It has been suggested that MI5 / MI6 have penetrated the UK press, and everything I have experienced would suggest that this is true. Roderick Russell</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have knowledge of a situation back in 2005 when The Guardian was not quite so interested in opposing press self-censorship as it is today. It is described on a wiki whose URL is:</p>
<p><a href="http://zerzetzen.wikispaces.com" rel="nofollow">http://zerzetzen.wikispaces.com</a> </p>
<p>You only have to look at what happened when my wife and I visited The Guardian’s offices in Manchester back in 2005 to complain about the government cover-up and human rights abuse that we write about (years of defamation, intimidation, death threats by MI5/6 being covered-up by government).</p>
<p>2 hours after we left The Guardian’s office, my wife and I were threatened in the name of HRH. The following weekend my eldest son, then living in Birmingham, received a number of telephone death threats which he recorded and a vehicle was smashed into my apartment then in Didsbury, Manchester. The Guardian subsequently “lost” all the correspondence I had handed them as evidence (it alleges then Minister Hazel Blears’ involvement with the cover-up – and copies of some of it are on the wiki – including a confirmatory letter to me from The Guardian’s Editor). A month later in the middle of the night my son was woken up by a helicopter that was hovering right beside his bedroom window, and a year later shots were fired at him in front of witnesses. You can imagine what having her children threatened for 10 years has done to his mother. Now The Guardian had every right not to publish my story, but it seems to me that The Guardian was on the side of the abusers since these little threatening incidents were clearly meant to punish us for going to the Guardian. I had booked my appointment at The Guardian in person, and unless we were followed to The Guardian’s offices, nobody except the paper’s staff knew we had met with them. It has been suggested that MI5 / MI6 have penetrated the UK press, and everything I have experienced would suggest that this is true. Roderick Russell</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://thethirdestate.net/2009/10/what-the-guardians-banned-from-telling-you-a-third-estate-exclusive/comment-page-1/#comment-4635</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 21:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For readers who want more background on the case, the blog The Poor Mouth has a very good series of posts: http://thepoormouth.blogspot.com/search/label/Trafigura</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For readers who want more background on the case, the blog The Poor Mouth has a very good series of posts: <a href="http://thepoormouth.blogspot.com/search/label/Trafigura" rel="nofollow">http://thepoormouth.blogspot.com/search/label/Trafigura</a></p>
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		<title>By: est</title>
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		<dc:creator>est</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The internet never forgets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The internet never forgets.</p>
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		<title>By: Philip Walker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philip Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 10:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huw: Abidjan is to Ivory Coast as New York is to the US: not the formal capital, but the most important city by a long shot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huw: Abidjan is to Ivory Coast as New York is to the US: not the formal capital, but the most important city by a long shot.</p>
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		<title>By: Reuben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reuben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 10:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks alot David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks alot David</p>
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		<title>By: David Kemp</title>
		<link>http://thethirdestate.net/2009/10/what-the-guardians-banned-from-telling-you-a-third-estate-exclusive/comment-page-1/#comment-4597</link>
		<dc:creator>David Kemp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 10:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The coral cdn link is http://thethirdestate.net.nyud.net/2009/10/what-the-guardians-banned-from-telling-you-a-third-estate-exclusive/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The coral cdn link is <a href="http://thethirdestate.net.nyud.net/2009/10/what-the-guardians-banned-from-telling-you-a-third-estate-exclusive/" rel="nofollow">http://thethirdestate.net.nyud.net/2009/10/what-the-guardians-banned-from-telling-you-a-third-estate-exclusive/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Huw Spanner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Huw Spanner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 10:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think Trafigura dumped the toxic waste in the sea near Ivory Coast - they &quot;washed&quot; it at sea and then hired an unqualified local man to dump the waste on land, around a major city (possibly the capital?)!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think Trafigura dumped the toxic waste in the sea near Ivory Coast &#8211; they &#8220;washed&#8221; it at sea and then hired an unqualified local man to dump the waste on land, around a major city (possibly the capital?)!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 09:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Spectator has it today too:
http://www.spectator.co.uk/alexmassie/5417651/british-press-banned-from-reporting-parliament-seriously.thtml

The more the merrier as far as I&#039;m concerned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Spectator has it today too:<br />
<a href="http://www.spectator.co.uk/alexmassie/5417651/british-press-banned-from-reporting-parliament-seriously.thtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.spectator.co.uk/alexmassie/5417651/british-press-banned-from-reporting-parliament-seriously.thtml</a></p>
<p>The more the merrier as far as I&#8217;m concerned.</p>
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