Comments on: Cruise ships in Haiti and misdirected moral outrage http://thethirdestate.net/2010/01/cruise-ships-in-haiti-and-misdirected-moral-outrage/ What Is The Third Estate? Everything. What Has It Been Until Now In The Political Order? Nothing. What Does It Want To Be? Something. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 23:39:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 By: Faraz http://thethirdestate.net/2010/01/cruise-ships-in-haiti-and-misdirected-moral-outrage/comment-page-1/#comment-6842 Faraz Tue, 19 Jan 2010 16:05:31 +0000 http://thethirdestate.net/?p=3382#comment-6842 Regardless of whether it was the right thing to do, the cruiselines can and should do much more. One simple idea is to organize volunteer excursions in Haiti. Passengers can spend the day volunteering their time rebuilding Haiti. Win win win for Haiti, cruiselines and the passengers. More here - http://meetoncruise.com/blog/?p=32 Thoughts? Regardless of whether it was the right thing to do, the cruiselines can and should do much more.

One simple idea is to organize volunteer excursions in Haiti. Passengers can spend the day volunteering their time rebuilding Haiti. Win win win for Haiti, cruiselines and the passengers.

More here – http://meetoncruise.com/blog/?p=32

Thoughts?

]]> By: Dan http://thethirdestate.net/2010/01/cruise-ships-in-haiti-and-misdirected-moral-outrage/comment-page-1/#comment-6841 Dan Tue, 19 Jan 2010 15:57:51 +0000 http://thethirdestate.net/?p=3382#comment-6841 The one thing that did enrage me about that piece was the claim by the cruise company that they would be "crucial to Haiti's recovery" because they provide "hundred of jobs". The sanctimonious self-importance that they had a right to continue to operate because they provided a few hundred exploitation jobs, against the background of hundreds of thousands dead and utter social collapse was quite nauseating. The one thing that did enrage me about that piece was the claim by the cruise company that they would be “crucial to Haiti’s recovery” because they provide “hundred of jobs”. The sanctimonious self-importance that they had a right to continue to operate because they provided a few hundred exploitation jobs, against the background of hundreds of thousands dead and utter social collapse was quite nauseating.

]]> By: Matt http://thethirdestate.net/2010/01/cruise-ships-in-haiti-and-misdirected-moral-outrage/comment-page-1/#comment-6837 Matt Tue, 19 Jan 2010 10:24:16 +0000 http://thethirdestate.net/?p=3382#comment-6837 Hang on, i take the general point about disparity of wealth and proximity - but when the rooms, supplies and equipment on the cruise ship could be used directly to help Haitians but are not, and when aid ships are being turned away yet a cruise ship seems to be able to find a dock, then i think this is a particularly abhorrent case, and should be highlighted. 'stimulation of economy being necessary' - not this second it's not, when there are people without shelter or food or water. In the near future i'm sure tourism has a part to play in Haiti's economic recovery (if it is granted a recovery), but at the moment, unless it is directly helping the aid effort (with pairs of hands, not money) it will contribute very little, if anything. Hang on, i take the general point about disparity of wealth and proximity – but when the rooms, supplies and equipment on the cruise ship could be used directly to help Haitians but are not, and when aid ships are being turned away yet a cruise ship seems to be able to find a dock, then i think this is a particularly abhorrent case, and should be highlighted.

‘stimulation of economy being necessary’ – not this second it’s not, when there are people without shelter or food or water. In the near future i’m sure tourism has a part to play in Haiti’s economic recovery (if it is granted a recovery), but at the moment, unless it is directly helping the aid effort (with pairs of hands, not money) it will contribute very little, if anything.

]]> By: AdamP http://thethirdestate.net/2010/01/cruise-ships-in-haiti-and-misdirected-moral-outrage/comment-page-1/#comment-6825 AdamP Mon, 18 Jan 2010 20:22:27 +0000 http://thethirdestate.net/?p=3382#comment-6825 I'm not sure the Guardian article was keen to direct moral outrage at the Royal Caribbean passengers, to be honest (I haven't read the editorial/comment section yet however so I might have missed something there). The initial points about a passenger feeling 'sickened' were balanced against the points made about proceeds going to the relief effort and the stimulation of Haiti's economy being more necessary now than ever. No doubt there will be those getting wound up by it without reflecting on the fact that distance doesn't really make a huge difference in terms of the disparity of wealth, but the actual article seemed fairly balanced to me. I’m not sure the Guardian article was keen to direct moral outrage at the Royal Caribbean passengers, to be honest (I haven’t read the editorial/comment section yet however so I might have missed something there). The initial points about a passenger feeling ‘sickened’ were balanced against the points made about proceeds going to the relief effort and the stimulation of Haiti’s economy being more necessary now than ever. No doubt there will be those getting wound up by it without reflecting on the fact that distance doesn’t really make a huge difference in terms of the disparity of wealth, but the actual article seemed fairly balanced to me.

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