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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://thethirdestate.net/2010/02/how-should-the-left-feel-about-social-filth/comment-page-2/#comment-13656</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2010 21:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I knew someone who was slightly built, with white hair. Looked like he was in his 60s.

He wasn&#039;t. He was a Royal Marine unarmed combat instructor. Ouch for two muggers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I knew someone who was slightly built, with white hair. Looked like he was in his 60s.</p>
<p>He wasn&#8217;t. He was a Royal Marine unarmed combat instructor. Ouch for two muggers.</p>
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		<title>By: Professionalism in online journalism &#171; Bethza Bristol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Professionalism in online journalism &#171; Bethza Bristol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 04:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] mainstream media. Recent posts include &#8216;Barking Green Party are Right to Make a Stand&#8217;, &#8216;How Should the Left Feel About Social Filth?&#8217;, and &#8216;Mandelsohn Fails to Get Capitalism&#8217;. They are writing about issues in the news, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] mainstream media. Recent posts include &#8216;Barking Green Party are Right to Make a Stand&#8217;, &#8216;How Should the Left Feel About Social Filth?&#8217;, and &#8216;Mandelsohn Fails to Get Capitalism&#8217;. They are writing about issues in the news, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: BobFromBrockley</title>
		<link>http://thethirdestate.net/2010/02/how-should-the-left-feel-about-social-filth/comment-page-2/#comment-9213</link>
		<dc:creator>BobFromBrockley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 12:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reuben, I&#039;m sure you&#039;ve moved on from this long ago, but if you are interested, a small discussion of this post broke out when I linked to it at my place:

http://brockley.blogspot.com/2010/03/late-weekending.html?showComment=1268127922606#c6418839231543529384</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reuben, I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ve moved on from this long ago, but if you are interested, a small discussion of this post broke out when I linked to it at my place:</p>
<p><a href="http://brockley.blogspot.com/2010/03/late-weekending.html?showComment=1268127922606#c6418839231543529384" rel="nofollow">http://brockley.blogspot.com/2010/03/late-weekending.html?showComment=1268127922606#c6418839231543529384</a></p>
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		<title>By: Reuben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reuben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>satire fail</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>satire fail</p>
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		<title>By: LoveKarl</title>
		<link>http://thethirdestate.net/2010/02/how-should-the-left-feel-about-social-filth/comment-page-2/#comment-7558</link>
		<dc:creator>LoveKarl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Until the consciousness of the Proletariat is raised to recognise true class enemies, then the disease effects of the failure of capitalism will cause this deviant behaviour. It is the duty of all those working for the victory of the Proletariat over the boss-class to help educate our brothers and sisters to concentrate their energies towards seizing back wealth from those who have stolen it from the Proletariat, by squatting and occupying their houses, by releiving them of their Rolexes and Blackberries, by using their fine cars and credit cards. 

The Brothers who play their mobiles on the bus are merely reclaiming public space for the Proletariat from the chains of slavery of &#039;correct&#039; capitalist behaviour and the correct response is to clap and tap your feet in support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Until the consciousness of the Proletariat is raised to recognise true class enemies, then the disease effects of the failure of capitalism will cause this deviant behaviour. It is the duty of all those working for the victory of the Proletariat over the boss-class to help educate our brothers and sisters to concentrate their energies towards seizing back wealth from those who have stolen it from the Proletariat, by squatting and occupying their houses, by releiving them of their Rolexes and Blackberries, by using their fine cars and credit cards. </p>
<p>The Brothers who play their mobiles on the bus are merely reclaiming public space for the Proletariat from the chains of slavery of &#8216;correct&#8217; capitalist behaviour and the correct response is to clap and tap your feet in support.</p>
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		<title>By: Mandlebum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mandlebum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 18:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps the mugger was on a new labour initiative!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps the mugger was on a new labour initiative!</p>
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		<title>By: ya average englishman</title>
		<link>http://thethirdestate.net/2010/02/how-should-the-left-feel-about-social-filth/comment-page-2/#comment-7526</link>
		<dc:creator>ya average englishman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 17:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So you got threatened and a girl you know got robbed, whoopy dee doo........

You shall reap as you sew....

Seems the muggers weren&#039;t shit scared of that ASBO cetificate you were going to reward them ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you got threatened and a girl you know got robbed, whoopy dee doo&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>You shall reap as you sew&#8230;.</p>
<p>Seems the muggers weren&#8217;t shit scared of that ASBO cetificate you were going to reward them ?</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hugh Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@REUBEN &quot;The burglars were targetting a working class neighbourhood&quot;

And do you think it is OK for burglars to target other neighbourhoods? Which people in particular do you not mind having to suffer robbery? Doctors? Lawyers? Teachers? Train Drivers? All of these people earn more than the average wage which technically qualifies them as at least middle class.

I had a friend who was terribly innocent as a teenager and he joined the SWP after his experiences at Wapping and some other 80&#039;s picket lines. He once said to me something along the lines of:

&#039;It would be great to live in a socialist society where everyone pulled together, but some people are just wasters and thugs&#039;

Which I think fairly neatly sums up exactly why the left have it so wrong, their politics do not fit over the human condition, just over an idealistic version of it.

@DAN &quot;There are many non-Police jobs that are important in these kinds of situations and have disappeared. Putting conductors back on buses, recruiting more park attendants etc, would go a long way to helping here, as well as creating thousands of jobs.&quot;

Do you plan on paying higher travel costs, entry fees to parks etc. or will these jobs be created out of that bottomless pit of money we have available to us? Remember you are proposing state jobs that are a drain on the available resource, so you may find it hard to justify the cost over benefit. Although socialists tend not to think like that do they? Money is just something you print more of when you run out isn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@REUBEN &#8220;The burglars were targetting a working class neighbourhood&#8221;</p>
<p>And do you think it is OK for burglars to target other neighbourhoods? Which people in particular do you not mind having to suffer robbery? Doctors? Lawyers? Teachers? Train Drivers? All of these people earn more than the average wage which technically qualifies them as at least middle class.</p>
<p>I had a friend who was terribly innocent as a teenager and he joined the SWP after his experiences at Wapping and some other 80&#8242;s picket lines. He once said to me something along the lines of:</p>
<p>&#8216;It would be great to live in a socialist society where everyone pulled together, but some people are just wasters and thugs&#8217;</p>
<p>Which I think fairly neatly sums up exactly why the left have it so wrong, their politics do not fit over the human condition, just over an idealistic version of it.</p>
<p>@DAN &#8220;There are many non-Police jobs that are important in these kinds of situations and have disappeared. Putting conductors back on buses, recruiting more park attendants etc, would go a long way to helping here, as well as creating thousands of jobs.&#8221;</p>
<p>Do you plan on paying higher travel costs, entry fees to parks etc. or will these jobs be created out of that bottomless pit of money we have available to us? Remember you are proposing state jobs that are a drain on the available resource, so you may find it hard to justify the cost over benefit. Although socialists tend not to think like that do they? Money is just something you print more of when you run out isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: Billy Blofeld</title>
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		<dc:creator>Billy Blofeld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reuben, 

Your distaste for the BNP is palpable.

The current leadership of the Labour party are, of course, the fuel that makes the BNP successful.  

The fastest way to extinguish the BNP, is to do a hit job on senior figures in the Labour party.  If you are holding a whip round to pay for the hits, let me know.  I don&#039;t mind chipping in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reuben, </p>
<p>Your distaste for the BNP is palpable.</p>
<p>The current leadership of the Labour party are, of course, the fuel that makes the BNP successful.  </p>
<p>The fastest way to extinguish the BNP, is to do a hit job on senior figures in the Labour party.  If you are holding a whip round to pay for the hits, let me know.  I don&#8217;t mind chipping in.</p>
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		<title>By: cornyborny</title>
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		<dc:creator>cornyborny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another &#039;righty&#039; here to attack your post, Reuben, via one of those horrid and inexplicably popular libertarian sites. Delete my comment if you like, but that won&#039;t make me change my opinions any.

To answer the &quot;deliberately provocative&quot; (oooh!) title question directly: lefties should cherish each and every one of them as 1) you have collectively (ha) spent the past hundred years creating them, and 2) they provide your sole raison d&#039;être. Just think. You all might have to get proper jobs if things actually improved.

A terse response, yes. But then your post merits such. It may have felt like a brilliantly insightful treatise when you exuded it but to me it reads like a mediocre GCSE Sociology essay, all half-grasped theories and stumbling speculation. I do hope you&#039;re not actually an adult.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another &#8216;righty&#8217; here to attack your post, Reuben, via one of those horrid and inexplicably popular libertarian sites. Delete my comment if you like, but that won&#8217;t make me change my opinions any.</p>
<p>To answer the &#8220;deliberately provocative&#8221; (oooh!) title question directly: lefties should cherish each and every one of them as 1) you have collectively (ha) spent the past hundred years creating them, and 2) they provide your sole raison d&#8217;être. Just think. You all might have to get proper jobs if things actually improved.</p>
<p>A terse response, yes. But then your post merits such. It may have felt like a brilliantly insightful treatise when you exuded it but to me it reads like a mediocre GCSE Sociology essay, all half-grasped theories and stumbling speculation. I do hope you&#8217;re not actually an adult.</p>
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