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		<title>By: Don Amaro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Amaro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Aug 2010 12:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not believe that the concept (or similar ones) will ruin the city. On the contrary ... it could even help the small businesses and institutes that, in these hard economic times, are screaming for to being noticed and having someone on their porch (and come in).

This is my experience with the Secret Madeira and its Secret Sisters. Although it has not reached (yet) the totals like Secret London ... it is very vivid and starting to be viral within the local population. For many years there a lots of unknown (hidden) places worth to visit on Madeira, Funchal and other villages on the island ... but these are still unknown for most visitors. Even for a great part of the local habitants they are unaware of certain locations. It sounds strange but its true. Even I living here for 5 years on the island ... each week I learn something new. I have to laugh at those who say that they have seen the whole island in one week. I call these people &#039;short-sighted&#039;.

And thus ... if there is so much yet to see ... why not give a starting hint for everybody to find it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not believe that the concept (or similar ones) will ruin the city. On the contrary &#8230; it could even help the small businesses and institutes that, in these hard economic times, are screaming for to being noticed and having someone on their porch (and come in).</p>
<p>This is my experience with the Secret Madeira and its Secret Sisters. Although it has not reached (yet) the totals like Secret London &#8230; it is very vivid and starting to be viral within the local population. For many years there a lots of unknown (hidden) places worth to visit on Madeira, Funchal and other villages on the island &#8230; but these are still unknown for most visitors. Even for a great part of the local habitants they are unaware of certain locations. It sounds strange but its true. Even I living here for 5 years on the island &#8230; each week I learn something new. I have to laugh at those who say that they have seen the whole island in one week. I call these people &#8217;short-sighted&#8217;.</p>
<p>And thus &#8230; if there is so much yet to see &#8230; why not give a starting hint for everybody to find it out.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Davies</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Davies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 11:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having grown up in London and still spending a lot of time there, I feel there are two Londons; one for Londoners and the other for tourists and people who haven&#039;t lived there long. The former know the city, know its often quicker to do journeys by foot or on the bus, than the tube. The best thing you can do if you want to get to know the city is to get an A-Z and invest a bit of free time visiting places by foot. That way you&#039;ll find all the special places like unusual bars/pubs, theatres, cinemas, parks, green spaces, eateries etc that aren&#039;t easily accessible by tube (the preferred mode of transport for the newcomer and visitor). These sort of places won&#039;t become over-run, other than during temporary periods of hype such as recent inclusion on websites like SL, because they are harder to get to. Exposure on websites like SL will just benefit these places by occassional economic boosts, which in the current climate they may well need. So go and discover London on foot on the buses, know the city scape between A to B rather than popping up like a mole and feel smug about finding places that are special to yourselves. Theres nothing to worry about!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having grown up in London and still spending a lot of time there, I feel there are two Londons; one for Londoners and the other for tourists and people who haven&#8217;t lived there long. The former know the city, know its often quicker to do journeys by foot or on the bus, than the tube. The best thing you can do if you want to get to know the city is to get an A-Z and invest a bit of free time visiting places by foot. That way you&#8217;ll find all the special places like unusual bars/pubs, theatres, cinemas, parks, green spaces, eateries etc that aren&#8217;t easily accessible by tube (the preferred mode of transport for the newcomer and visitor). These sort of places won&#8217;t become over-run, other than during temporary periods of hype such as recent inclusion on websites like SL, because they are harder to get to. Exposure on websites like SL will just benefit these places by occassional economic boosts, which in the current climate they may well need. So go and discover London on foot on the buses, know the city scape between A to B rather than popping up like a mole and feel smug about finding places that are special to yourselves. Theres nothing to worry about!</p>
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		<title>By: peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 12:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think secret London is a great idea, and if you don&#039;t like it or don&#039;t want to use it then refrain from doing so.

I do not think that it would ruin London in any way at all. If the masses would think that it would ruin london then they wouldn&#039;t bother with it.

Just because something is secret and the world knows about it, it doesn&#039;t mean that its no longer a secret. In the definition of the word it would literally no longer be a secret, but I don&#039;t think you would get hoards and hoards of people to visit a park bench on a daily basis...there are so many other &quot;secret&quot; places that they could also see.

I am trying to write a user friendly guidebook on London, and if anyone wants a free copy once it is written I will gladly send you one. All I ask in favour of this is that you fill out a survey of mine which would take less than five minutes.

http://www.londonattractionsforfree.com

Peter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think secret London is a great idea, and if you don&#8217;t like it or don&#8217;t want to use it then refrain from doing so.</p>
<p>I do not think that it would ruin London in any way at all. If the masses would think that it would ruin london then they wouldn&#8217;t bother with it.</p>
<p>Just because something is secret and the world knows about it, it doesn&#8217;t mean that its no longer a secret. In the definition of the word it would literally no longer be a secret, but I don&#8217;t think you would get hoards and hoards of people to visit a park bench on a daily basis&#8230;there are so many other &#8220;secret&#8221; places that they could also see.</p>
<p>I am trying to write a user friendly guidebook on London, and if anyone wants a free copy once it is written I will gladly send you one. All I ask in favour of this is that you fill out a survey of mine which would take less than five minutes.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.londonattractionsforfree.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.londonattractionsforfree.com</a></p>
<p>Peter</p>
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		<title>By: Andreas Papadopoulos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andreas Papadopoulos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 14:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The name &quot;Tiffany&quot; comes from the Greek Θεοφάνεια. In the Greek Orthodox tradition this commemorates Jesus&#039; christening/baptising on the river Jordan by John the Baptist and is celebrated on January 6th each year (it&#039;s also called Επιφάνεια or Epiphany).  The female name is Θεοφανώ and the male Θεοφάνης. The eponymous jewellery store got its name much later. Given Tiffany&#039;s surname I suspect she has Greek roots hence the name - it has probably nothing to do with the jewellery store.

Is there really a need for personal attacks such as the one above? It only betrays prejudice and ignorance.

Also, it&#039;s somewhat odd to believe that the only thing that prevents hordes of people from flocking to these venues/locations/restaurants is the fact that they just don&#039;t know about them. Is this really the case?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The name &#8220;Tiffany&#8221; comes from the Greek Θεοφάνεια. In the Greek Orthodox tradition this commemorates Jesus&#8217; christening/baptising on the river Jordan by John the Baptist and is celebrated on January 6th each year (it&#8217;s also called Επιφάνεια or Epiphany).  The female name is Θεοφανώ and the male Θεοφάνης. The eponymous jewellery store got its name much later. Given Tiffany&#8217;s surname I suspect she has Greek roots hence the name &#8211; it has probably nothing to do with the jewellery store.</p>
<p>Is there really a need for personal attacks such as the one above? It only betrays prejudice and ignorance.</p>
<p>Also, it&#8217;s somewhat odd to believe that the only thing that prevents hordes of people from flocking to these venues/locations/restaurants is the fact that they just don&#8217;t know about them. Is this really the case?</p>
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		<title>By: Open secrets &#171; London Particulars</title>
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		<dc:creator>Open secrets &#171; London Particulars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 14:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] group has its detractors, however. One notable is http://thethirdestate.net/2010/02/why-secret-london-might-ruin-our-city/ who believes that by drawing people&#8217;s attention to the existence of these places, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] group has its detractors, however. One notable is <a href="http://thethirdestate.net/2010/02/why-secret-london-might-ruin-our-city/ who" rel="nofollow">http://thethirdestate.net/2010/02/why-secret-london-might-ruin-our-city/ who</a> believes that by drawing people&#8217;s attention to the existence of these places, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The secret of Laranjeiras &#38; French Antartica &#171; Eyes On Brazil</title>
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		<dc:creator>The secret of Laranjeiras &#38; French Antartica &#171; Eyes On Brazil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 22:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Anyways, a bit of a discussion is going on as to whether taste is best shared or guarded (best to read &#8216;guarded&#8217; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Will secretlondon ruin our city? &#171; secretlondon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will secretlondon ruin our city? &#171; secretlondon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 21:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a blog entitled &#8216;Why Secret London might ruin our city&#8217; the author argued that &#8216;The result, I can only assume, will be for all of those lovely little [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Rob Haughton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Haughton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 20:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well done Troll. Hide behind your anonymity.

I have already responded to this blog on the discussion. And given my support to SecretLondon by saying the rules have not changed, this is simply word of mouth advertising which has been the backbone of any event or business since businesses begun.

But I just wanted to prove the point that I can imply that you seem like a &quot;vulgar term for female genitalia&quot; and give a name.

There is no need to be vindictive. I respect the author of this more than you (if you read the discussion, you&#039;ll understand my meaning), at least he was making a point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done Troll. Hide behind your anonymity.</p>
<p>I have already responded to this blog on the discussion. And given my support to SecretLondon by saying the rules have not changed, this is simply word of mouth advertising which has been the backbone of any event or business since businesses begun.</p>
<p>But I just wanted to prove the point that I can imply that you seem like a &#8220;vulgar term for female genitalia&#8221; and give a name.</p>
<p>There is no need to be vindictive. I respect the author of this more than you (if you read the discussion, you&#8217;ll understand my meaning), at least he was making a point.</p>
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		<title>By: Tiffany Sucks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tiffany Sucks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good god, does the universe revolve around Tiffany?  

Rather than let people have a discussion on this blog, she wants to hog all the discussion to herself and her blog.

Get over yourself - your not royalty, even if your parents were tacky enough to name you after jewellery store.

All these &quot;Secret London&quot;, &quot;Secret Paris&quot; are for the nanosecond generation.  By the very nature of what they are doing, they&#039;ll destroy the things they profess to love.  When they can&#039;t get into their favourite restaurant, they&#039;ll realise how stupid they were.

The favourite seat in Nunhead Cemetery is pretty safe - after 25 years of living and cycling round Peckham, Borough, Holloway, Finsbury Park, Clapton, Clapham, and Mile End I&#039;ve never even heard of Nunhead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good god, does the universe revolve around Tiffany?  </p>
<p>Rather than let people have a discussion on this blog, she wants to hog all the discussion to herself and her blog.</p>
<p>Get over yourself &#8211; your not royalty, even if your parents were tacky enough to name you after jewellery store.</p>
<p>All these &#8220;Secret London&#8221;, &#8220;Secret Paris&#8221; are for the nanosecond generation.  By the very nature of what they are doing, they&#8217;ll destroy the things they profess to love.  When they can&#8217;t get into their favourite restaurant, they&#8217;ll realise how stupid they were.</p>
<p>The favourite seat in Nunhead Cemetery is pretty safe &#8211; after 25 years of living and cycling round Peckham, Borough, Holloway, Finsbury Park, Clapton, Clapham, and Mile End I&#8217;ve never even heard of Nunhead.</p>
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		<title>By: Tiffany Philippou</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tiffany Philippou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 20:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As creator of the Secret London facebook group, I wrote a blog in response to yours. I invite you to read it and let me know what you think: http://secretlondonblog.onefinestay.com/ There is also a facebook discussion on the issue which I encourage you to engage with. http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=259068995911&amp;topic=12498</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As creator of the Secret London facebook group, I wrote a blog in response to yours. I invite you to read it and let me know what you think: <a href="http://secretlondonblog.onefinestay.com/" rel="nofollow">http://secretlondonblog.onefinestay.com/</a> There is also a facebook discussion on the issue which I encourage you to engage with. <a href="http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=259068995911&amp;topic=12498" rel="nofollow">http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=259068995911&amp;topic=12498</a></p>
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