Zeitgeist Exposed

This post was written by Guest Post on March 20, 2010
Posted Under: Anti-Semitism,Features,Film,Media

In Agatha Christie’s classic crime novel the ABC Murders, the detective Hercule Poirot comes up with the following formulation: “When do you notice a pin least? When it is in a pin cushion. When do you notice a murder least? When it is one of a series of related murders.” I would like to extend Poirot’s thinking to “When do you notice an extremely pernicious and dangerous conspiracy theory least? When it is set in a two hour film amongst many other conspiracy theories.”

Over the last year or so a number of people have told me that I should watch the film Zeitgeist: The Movie. All of these people have been lefties or liberals, and each tells me that the film supplies a good exposé of power in the modern world. These people have been from a wide range of backgrounds and ages, some of them environmentalists, some of them unionists, some of them socialists, some British, some American. The film has achieved massive viewing figures globally, with over 3,000,000 people having watched it on Youtube, and many more on DVD or Google Video. And of all of these people who have recommended the film to me, none has noticed its reliance on the old myth of the “world Jewish conspiracy”.

In this article I hope to expose the film’s relationship to older anti-Semitic texts and myths, and look more closely at how these theories are made to look left-wing or liberal. I wish to explain why this film has become so attractive to people who otherwise are engaged in good struggles against capitalism, against war, and to save the environment. I am particularly interested in the relationship between the film and a book called The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, along with its use of other anti-Semitic tropes that have existed throughout modernity.

Zeitgeist: The Movie is split into three parts: The first focuses on the relationship between astrological symbology and the story of Jesus; the second on “the truth about 9/11″; and the third is about international finance. In all honesty the first part is neither here nor there. The argument is that Christianity is not original in its particular form of mythology, and instead is a reconfiguration of older myths focusing on sun gods. Whether or not we take this argument to be true has very little impact on how we understand modern society. The second section of the film expounds a theory that 9/11 was an inside job, committed by the American state. Many people do believe this, and much of the information is inaccessible, but the argument that I would like to make is that these two conspiracy theories are in many ways inconsequential to the overall meaning of the film. Rather they are used as a smoke screen to justify the dissemination of anti-Semitic material in the final section of the film.

What is The Protocols of the Elders of Zion?
The Protocols is a book first published by around the turn of the last century in Russia. It is a fraudulent and fictional document made to read as if written by Jews intent on ruling the world. It suggests that the Jewish people plan on world domination through a process of controlling governments, controlling the media, controlling banks, and swindling the populace at large. The claim is that Jews wish to enslave the world by creating a “one world government.” Of course the text is deeply anti-Semitic, and has been shown numerous times to be a forgery, but has been used consistently throughout the 20th and 21st centuries to justify atrocities committed against Jews. Furthermore it remains popular in parts of the world, and amongst certain right-wing and fascist organisations.

The relationship between two texts
It is easy enough to say that there is a large cross-over of content between Zeitgeist and The Protocols of the Elders of Zion by plucking a few choice quotes. For example, where Zeitgeist says, “International bankers now have a streamlined machine to expand their personal ambitions”, The Protocols says “the wheels of the machine of all the states are moved by the force of the engine, which is in our [the Jews'] hands, and the engine of the machinery of our states is Gold .” But I would suggest that this sort of critique does not go far enough, rather I would like to show that the entire argument of the third section of the film has been lifted from The Protocols. It is the same argument, often in slightly altered language, and as such is just as anti-Semitic. I will focus on five particular aspects: The one world government; the use of war; manipulation of the populace; the focus on gold and money; and the idea of an all-powerful secret cabal.

The One World Government
One of the great fears of the conspiracy theorists is a one world government. This point is made explicitly towards the end of Zeitgeist in a discussion of a North American Union, an Asian Union, the European Union, and an African Union. And finally, they say “when the time is right they will merge together forming the final stages of a plan these men have been working on for over 60 years: a one world government… One bank, one army, one centre of power.” This argument is particularly related to he opening of Protocol 3 in which we read, “Today I may tell you that our [the Jews'] goal is now only a few steps off. There remains but a small space to cross of the long path we have trodden before the cycle of the Symbolic Snake, by which we symbolise our people, will be completed. When this ring closes, all the States of Europe will be locked into its coil as in a powerful vice.” The Protocols go on in Protocol 5, “by all these means we shall so wear down the goyim (non-Jews) that they will be compelled to offer us international power of a nature that will enable us to absorb all the State forces of the world and to form a Super-Government.”

The use of war
There is a section in the film in which it is claimed that the justifications for America going into a number of world wars were orchestrated by “men behind the government.” We are told that the sinking of the Lusitania was planned, that the Gulf of Tonkin Incident never happened, that Pearl Harbour was known about well in advance, and of course that 9/11 was an inside job. We are told that both sides of conflicts have been funded by the same “international bankers.” This section of the film is lifted directly from Protocol 7, which reads, “Throughout all of Europe, and by means of relations in Europe, in other continents also, we must create ferments, discords, and hostility. Therein we gain a double advantage. In the first place we keep in check all countries, for they well know that we have the power whenever we like to create disorders and to restore order… We must be in a position to respond to every act of opposition by war with the neighbours of that country which dares to oppose us: but if these neighbours should also venture to stand collectively against us, then we must offer resistance by universal war.”

I am not going to say here that wars haven’t been entered into cynically, because of course they have, and I am also not saying that many wars should not be opposed, because again in many cases they should. The point though, is that the structure of this particular argument about war is based on the idea of Jews running the world, and should thus be thrown out.

Manipulating the populace
There are two branches to classic Jewish conspiracy theory thought about how the people are made stupid and swindled. The first, and in fact the one that has been most significant in the history of Jewish conspiracy theories, is the idea of Jews being in charge of the media. The second, which has become less widely used but still exists in Zeitgeist: The Movie is the idea of Jewish control of the education system to make it ineffective. The issue of Jewish control of the media is covered in Protocol 12 in which it is written, “Not a single announcement will reach the public without our control. Even now this is being attained by us inasmuch as all news items are received by a few agencies in whose offices they are focused from all parts of the world. These agencies will then be already entirely ours (the Jews’) and will give publicity only to what we dictate to them.” And in Protocol 13, “We further distract them [the non-Jews] with amusements, games, pastimes, passions, people’s palaces… Soon we shall begin through the press to propose competitions in art, in sport of all kinds. These interests will finally distract their minds from questions in which we should find ourselves compelled to oppose them.” In Zeitgeist identical issues are covered throughout but in particular there is discussion of a “culture entirely saturated by mass media entertainments.” We are told that the same people behind the planned takeover of society are “behind the mainstream media.”

In both Zeitgeist and The Protocols we see some discussion of the education system. In Zeitgeist we are told about the “downward slide of the US education system” and that “They [the government] do not want your children to be educated.” Completely unsurprisingly the same argument is made in Protocol 16: “When we are in power we shall remove every kind of disturbing subject from the course of education and shall make out of the youth obedient children of authority.” The narrator of Zeitgeist says, “the last thing the men behind the curtain want is a conscious, informed public”, echoing the sentiment from Protocol 5 that “there is nothing more dangerous to us (the Jews) than personal initiative.”

The focus on gold or money: the federal reserve, and Jewish usury
Both The Protocols (particularly Protocols 21 and 22) and Zeitgeist focus heavily on issues regarding money or gold. Both offer the theory that the problems of society are caused by money and systems of money being controlled by a small group of people of questionable morals. What is important here is the focus is on money rather than on capital or production. Instead of offering critical perspectives on the structures within society that cause oppression and poverty, the general view is society as it stands is benevolent and this benevolence is subverted by problems in the sphere of circulation.

Over the centuries, going back as far as the expulsion of the Jews from Britain in 1290, the charge of usury has been levelled against the Jews for anti-Semitic purposes. Zeitgeist says of the federal income tax, “roughly 25% of the average worker’s income is taken via this tax, and guess where that money goes? It goes to pay the interest on the currency being produced by the Federal Reserve Bank. The money you make working for almost three months out of the years goes almost literally into the pockets of the international bankers.” Again, for the sake of trying not to appear as racist as they really are, the word Jew is replaced with “international bankers.” This is once again a restatement of an anti-Semitic myth. Just as in all of these examples, the arguments here are lifted from older anti-Semitic theories. They are not offering an explanation of world or national political economic systems, rather they exist solely to foster an attitude of hatred to a certain pre-defined section of society.

A secretive cabal?
Ultimately, the argument that is being made throughout Zeitgeist is that the world is being controlled by a small secret society of individuals, and in the context of the history of conspiracy theories, they are talking about the Jews. When we are told by the film about meetings of these “international bankers” that are “secretive and concealed from public view”, discussions about “an accelerated agenda by the ruthless elite”, or “people behind the government” they are breathing new life into an old racist myth that we must try to do away with.

There is an insistence throughout conspiracy theories that someone or some group of people are personally responsible for all of the ills of the world, and this is very much related to anti-Semitism throughout modernity. For hundreds of years, Jews have been the officially sanctioned scapegoat of capitalism. Where systems of production have impoverished people, the Jews have been blamed; where people have felt taxes are unfair, the Jews have been blamed; where people have felt alienated by the structures of society, they have been told that they are in fact alienated because they are not part of secret meetings of Jews. Ultimately these theories lead us away from a critique of capitalism. Slovenian philosopher, Slavoj Zizek makes exactly this point with reference to Wagner’s anti-Semitism when he writes “He needs a Jew: so that, first, modernity – this abstract impersonal process – is given a human face, is identified with a concrete, palpable feature; then, in a second move, by rejecting the Jew which gives full body to all that is disintegrated in modernity, we can retain its advantages. In short, anti-Semitism does not stand for anti-modernism as such, but an attempt at combining modernity with social corporatism which is characteristic of conservative revolutionaries.”

Who was Senator Louis McFadden?
Louis McFadden, who is quoted at length in Zeitgeist, was a senator in the US in the first part of the twentieth century. He also happened to be a serious anti-Semite, and came out with lines such as, “in the United States today, the Gentiles have the slips of paper while the Jews have the lawful money.” He is quoted twice in the film saying the following: “A world banking system was being set up here… a superstate controlled by international bankers acting together to enslave the world for their own pleasure…” and “It was a carefully contrived occurrence. International bankers sought to bring about a condition of despair so they might emerge rulers of us all.” Within the context of McFadden’s world view, he is using “international bankers” as an epithet for Jews. What is notable is that the makers of Zeitgeist seem keen to omit this context, to suggest that McFadden is simply offering a critique of capitalism. The fact is that within conspiracy theories the labelling of Jews as “international bankers” and “international finance capital” is a common trope. These quotes would have been understood at the time, and is still understood by many now, to be anti-Semitic gestures.

The Case of Jeremiah Duggan, and the truth about Lyndon LaRouche
Another rather shady character who appears in Zeitgeist is American political activist Lyndon LaRouche. I felt I should include the following story as anecdotal evidence of quite how dangerous these people can be:

Jeremiah Duggan was a British Student at the Sorbonne who died in 2003 in extremely suspicious circumstances. In the months leading up to his death, Duggan had become involved in what he believed to be an anti-war organisation. In fact he had become entangled with a set of political organisations headed up by American political activist Lyndon LaRouche. In March that year, Duggan attended a conference of these organisations at the Schiller Institute (a site owned by LaRouche’s movement) in Wiesbaden, Germany. During the course of meetings Duggan revealed himself to be Jewish, and yet in such meetings of LaRouche’s movement, Jews are blamed for starting the war, reanimating the old conspiracy myths about the Jews encouraging wars as they aid social control. He said in his keynote address to the conference, “This plot to launch a new world war has been intellectually influenced by people who, like Hitler, admire Nietzsche, but “being Jewish, they couldn’t qualify for Nazi Party leadership, even though their fascism was absolutely pure! As extreme as Hitler! They sent them to the United States.[…] Who’s behind it? . . . The independent central-banking-system crowd, the slime-mold. The financier interests.”

At around 5am, after Duggan had revealed his Jewish identity at the conference, he phoned his mother. He said, “Mum, I’m in … big trouble … You know this Nouvelle Solidarité? ..” He said, “I can’t do this” … I want out.” And at that point the phone was cut. And then it rang back again almost immediately. … And then the first thing that he said that time was, “Mum, I’m frightened.” She realized he was in such danger that she said to him, “I love you.” And then he said, “I want to see you now.” She said, “well, where are you, Jerry?” And he said, “Wiesbaden.” And she said, “How do you spell it?” And he said, “W I E S.” And then the phone was cut.

The next day, Jeremiah was found dead, with members of LaRouche’s movement claiming that he had committed suicide. Inquests are still ongoing to determine what happened that night. In the last few weeks a second inquiry into his death has been announced.

LaRouche has been known as a Jewish conspiracy theorist for more than 30 years now. His organisation is cultish and dangerous (one of the reasons I choose to write this anonymously), and the content of much of what he says can be traced back to the sort of allegations put forward by The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. What, then, is a man like this doing in a film that purports to be a lefty-liberal critique of society?

Zeitgeist and the Left
What is in many ways most unsettling about this film is the fact that it purports to be left-wing or liberal. As the film ends we see images of three men faded in and out: Mahatma Gandhi, Martin Luther-King, and John Lennon. Throughout the film we have quotations from left wing comedian Bill Hicks and a section is given to New Labour politician Michael Meacher. It is asserted once again that the aim of this film is the affirmation of the unity of humanity, of doing away with difference, whether it be class, race, or sex. We are made to think that the film is offering a radical left critique of power. Instead it is indulging in the sort of theories that are more at home with right-wing libertarians. I do not know entirely why the Zeitgeist group are particularly targeting the left. It is perhaps a divisive measure, but also possibly just an arena where they feel they can convert people to their way of thinking. What is clear, though, is that the suggestion that the ideas expressed are left-wing or liberal, and the deployment of quotations from well known lefties and liberals, is utterly cynical.

The positivist problem
There is one reason in particular that these conspiracies may seem compatible with left wing modes of thought, and that is to do with the philosophical problem of positivism. Stated in its simplest form, this is that ideas about transforming a society cannot be straightforwardly expressed in the language or accepted modes of thought of the society that they wish to transform. And this issue is common to all transformative theories of society. Probably the most influential branch of this type of thinking stemmed from Hegel to Marx, and then into Marxists of the 20th and 21st century. The solution for them is to talk in terms of a dialectic, that is, by comparing the consciousness of a society to the material reality. The significant conclusion of this type of thought is that one’s consciousness of society, up to a certain point is always false.

The conspiracy theorists take on this question in another way. They say that if our consciousness of society is always false, it is made to be false by a small number of powerful who make it false. They believe that we are consistently duped by an all-knowing cabal who control every aspect of our lives. And the solutions differ too. For the Marxists and socialists the problem is that society produces a consciousness that doesn’t allow us to fully understand our immiseration in work, in unemployment, or in powerlessness, and the solution is the radical transformation of society to a fairer, less exploitative world. For the conspiracy theorists the answer is the elimination of this so-called small powerful elite. They do not believe that society needs any more transformation than this.

This is difficult philosophical ground to tread. We run a huge risk if we are to criticise the conspiracy theorists for not being positivists, not working within accepted modes of thought. Instead, what we must say is that their particular critical mode of thought does not propose a correct solution for solving society’s problems, and furthermore is reliant not on unity but on division. We must show that inequality in society is structural rather than being based on the wishes of a small group of Jews.

What is to be done?
Zeitgeist: The Movie is ever growing in popularity, and furthermore they are building a movement. More and more people are being influenced by what the film has to say, without realising quite where it is coming from. It is important that as widely as possible we can expose the anti-Semitic subtext to this film. We must expose the film as being cynically positioned to influence liberals and lefties. In targeting the ideas presented by Zeitgeist it is not enough to just quibble over details, rather we must be trying to understand the politics that this film overall is trying to portray. We need to read through the many layers of conspiracy theories here, and understand that there is one in particular that they want us to believe, and that this one is, of course, the most dangerous and pernicious.

It is important to understand that the type of critique of society offered by the Zeitgeist movement cannot be separated from the Jewish conspiracy theory. One cannot take classic anti-Semitic texts, replace the word “Jew” with “international bankers”, or “international finance capital” and then believe that your theory is no longer anti-Semitic. Of course there are very good arguments that capitalism and indeed imperialism are extremely dangerous. There are very good arguments from a left or liberal perspective to say that the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq should never have been fought. And it is here that we must recognise that ends do not justify means. We cannot afford to support any cause that is simply anti-capitalist, or any cause that is simply anti-war, otherwise we run the risk of getting into bed with fascists. Rather, our positions on capitalism and of war must arise from thoroughgoing critique, rather than a rehashing and rebranding of old anti-Semitic narratives.

In order to spread this message as widely as possible I encourage you to republish this piece on your own websites, to send it to friends and comrades, to show it to anyone who tells you about “this fabulous new film you just have to watch.” One of the easiest ways is, if you are on twitter, to just click the tweet button at thee top of this post. If possible, do track back to us here at The Third Estate so we can monitor how widely this material is being disseminated. In coming weeks I will be recreating this article as a voice-over video, much in the style of Zeitgeist: The Movie in order that we can spread these views to even more people who may be influenced by this abhorrent film.

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Reader Comments

I’d never heard of Zeitgeist before you mentioned it. It seems a rather pitiable thing, reading your description of it – a bit of anti-Christian nonsense built on a little learning about religious syncretism, the 9/11 truther rubbish and then this last bit about an international conspiracy of bankers.

Not really worth bothering about surely?

There may be three million views on YouTube, but it’ll be a far smaller number that watched it. And the sort of people who are recommending it…well our political consciousness goes through all sorts of contortions as it rises. I certainly went through an anti-American phase. Suspicions about conspiracies is just one more phase, and it leaves people when they get involved in the real class struggle.

#1 
Written By Dave Semple on March 20th, 2010 @ 6:02 pm

A long-forgotten school friend invited me on facebook to get involved with a ‘Zeitgeist’ group in Leeds (currently has 9 members). I had a look on their website, and it’s pretty weird. More than anything else, it looks religious in character. It reminds me an awful lot of the utopian, world-schema-building rubbish that Duehring wrote, that Engels criticised. They have a comprehensively-worked-out view of the world that reads more like a paranoid world-embracing fantasy than a materialist, political critique, and they confidently declare that if their prescriptions are applied to the world, then “every problem in the world” will be solved.

Then they say a bunch of stuff about the importance of reason and international financiers, and it finishes. The final sentence of this enormous screed is about programme – it just seems to imply that if enough people read the website, and the process of automation of work continues unabated, then the genius of the writer will be applied to the world, and stuff will get better automatically.

The totally megalomaniacal style, and the reliance on the infallible genius of ‘the project’ strongly suggests to me that it’s a personality cult. Who’s the personality? I don’t think that it’s antisemitic in the sense that it is a mass movement dedicated to organising jew-hate, but I accept that it uses a lot of the undialectical and utopian modes of thought that characterise populist political antisemitism and socialist antisemitism.

#2 
Written By Ed Maltby on March 20th, 2010 @ 7:29 pm

‘Monetary reform’ and social credit are often linked to the far right and anti-semitism http://another-green-world.blogspot.com/2008/12/far-right-speaker-at-alternative.html

thanks for the article, interesting and important….hadn’t come across Zeitgeist before.

LaRouche is dodgy!

#3 
Written By Derek Wall on March 21st, 2010 @ 9:18 am

Good stuff. I encountered some LaRouche supporters in Seattle some years ago. I still have some of their literature I think. The only think I remember was them reacting very badly when I told them I was going to study philosophy in a British University, apparently British Empiricism plays some obscure role in their mad conspiracies…

#4 
Written By Dan on March 22nd, 2010 @ 11:11 am

Please do not think this article reflects the Zeitgeist films or movement accurately; it paints a very biased and searching view, almost to the point of being laughable, if the author weren’t so intent on drawing connections where none exist.

This article presumes anyone critical of the monetary system is an anti-semite, which is just sad.

Indeed, do not believe any article about a topic when you can just review the materials for yourself and make up your own mind:

http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com

#5 
Written By Joseph Matthew on March 23rd, 2010 @ 4:33 am
MIKE

“The Protocols … is a fraudulent and fictional document … It suggests that the Jewish people plan on world domination through a process of controlling governments, controlling the media, controlling banks, and swindling the populace at large.”

Surely it is irrelevant whether this document is a forgery or not. The fact is that Jews DO control our governments, they DO control the media, they DO control the banks and, knowing what is going on in the financial world, they ARE swindling the populace at large. Just look at a list of those who are in our governments and those who own or control our newspapers, television companies, publishing houses, movie studios, recording companies etc. They also own Google and Youtube, in fact they control nearly every place we get our information from. If that isn’t a plan to dominate the world then I don’t know what is.

#6 
Written By MIKE on April 4th, 2010 @ 12:18 am

I think we should get a grant from care in the community for keeping MIKE occupied.

#7 
Written By Reuben on April 4th, 2010 @ 12:23 am
MIKE

@ REUBEN: Quote from your reply to me which arrived in my inbox, but which mysteriously does not appear above:
“Word of advice mate. When the content of your comment already makes you look like a headcase, typing your name in all caps really doesn’t help.”
You mean exactly the way your name appears? OK …

#8 
Written By MIKE on April 4th, 2010 @ 2:04 am
Mike

There, is that OK for you now Reuben? Sorry if I caused you any unbearable stress or discomfort through my selfish behaviour. I confess I didn’t bother to investigate the ins and outs of how you’d set up your site before posting, I just copied how everyone else seemed to have done it (or so I thought). That will teach me. Actually I do have a serious mental illness, if you can get me a grant, anything at all, it would be a heck of a lot more than what I’m being offered at the moment.

So you think I’m talking nonsense then? Fine, but perhaps a truly constructive comment on your part might have been more helpful, show me the error of my ways and all that. Or perhaps I hit a raw nerve – that is usually the case when the best a person can do is to hurl insults. But thanks anyway. I won’t bother you again.

#9 
Written By Mike on April 4th, 2010 @ 2:44 am
Neslihan

Simplistic commentary, fails to acknowledge a philosophy in its entirety. Author might have persecutory paranoia.

#10 
Written By Neslihan on April 30th, 2010 @ 7:43 am

There were some very similar audio tapes being distributed amongst Muslim students as early as 1999. Does anyone remember what they were called?

#11 
Written By Naadir Jeewa on May 3rd, 2010 @ 1:39 pm
martin cuernov

It doesn’t matter how the truth gets out. for a start, what is the motivation of this writer to write this? He says 3m people have watched this but u tube recalibrated the viewing figures when the viewing number had reached 38m, and that was well over 2years ago. Statistically this figure is in excess of 50m; and that is a low estimate. the La Roche group are involved in changing the way we are educated, especially to change our ways of thinking on such fundamental subjects as science, physics, history and geography.
This is one voice amongst millions, and to use the murder analogy, a lot of people did see something. Don’t trust a person who cannot put forward a tenable alternative critique to the overwhelming evidence(s) of what happened on 9/11. And , yes, some jews were involved, as well as bad people from many other national backgrounds.

#12 
Written By martin cuernov on July 3rd, 2010 @ 8:13 am
ShepMuncie

He lost me when he started with the anti smite trash . God they leave no stones unturned . Every aspect of our society is infiltrated by them

#13 
Written By ShepMuncie on July 17th, 2010 @ 7:07 pm
alex

Hi very interesting stuff. I am a member of the Zeitgeist movement but feel your ideas to some extent are definetly correct. I think the main thing about the whole Zeitgeist idea is to open your mind more than anything. Society as a whole is definetly being manipulated and the movie at least opens people up to the world around them. It makes people interested in studying into things, whether it is to beleive a religion, look into certain events that have come under scrutiny or to understand how the economic system works. The differnece between the Protocols and Zeitgeist is that people no longer beleive what is written in a book or on Tv for fact. It goes against the way we live in society to trust that we are being given correct information. What is your opinion?

On a side note the Gulf of Tonkin incident was a lapse of judgement on the US part, and was covered up, but as we have seen was later released to the public as an un true account of what happened on the days.

Alex
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nz

#14 
Written By alex on August 1st, 2010 @ 2:26 pm
Kerry

I really appreciate this article. I was sent a request to view this movie, and was hesitant, read neutral and appreciative reviews online.
It reminded me about a lot of anti-semitic garbage I heard and read since childhood, which has just not gone away.
This is the type of insightful and matter of fact reply we need to dispute this and other conspiracy lies. The same principles apply to other xenaphobic rants and materials. It’s time consuming and feels overwhelming at times trying to word protests against hate, so I thank you for doing the homework for those of us who care.
Much Appreciated

#15 
Written By Kerry on August 23rd, 2010 @ 12:15 am
Kerry

And just to add, like you noted, the clever thing is the use of some helpful and good concepts, mixed with lies. If anything, the old guard approach of blaming the “other” is as distracting as any other modern distraction they claim to be against.

It is the mixing of truth with lies which makes it harder to tackle prejudicial attacks guised as “concern”.

#16 
Written By Kerry on August 23rd, 2010 @ 12:19 am

TZM supports love & unity as our greatest strength, has defined technology applied to social concern as “divinity in action”, and that we need to embrace the fact we are all one planet; how someone could interpret that as anti-semetic I don’t know!

Yet in paraphrase of the article: “Any critique of our monetary system is anti-semetic! Waaaahhh!”

Guess it’s easier to just slap anti-this or anti-that on anything that disagrees with your perspective, than to actually do the challenging work of understanding the ideas, much less refuting them with facts.

With it’s numerous false assumptions, unsubstantiated presumptions, misleading suppositions, and insinuation unsupported by facts, this article obviously takes the easy path… just sad.

#17 
Written By Joseph Matthew on August 23rd, 2010 @ 2:55 am
telson

This article refutes and disproves claims of Zeitgeist movie, from the part of Christianity:

http://koti.phnet.fi/petripaavola/zeitgeist_movie.html

I suggest to read the article!

#18 
Written By telson on August 24th, 2010 @ 2:03 pm

@Telson
Reviewed your link with an open mind and accepting the possibility that your claim is true.

However, what the article contains could best be paraphrased as “Zeitgeist is wrong because the bible says so!”. I stopped counting after 12 occurrences of this justification.

Further the article takes statements out of context in support of its inherit bias. How this “refutes & disproves” anything is beyond my understanding. Sorry.

If it helps, I forgive you and anyone else who takes such writings as truth :)

#19 
Written By Joseph Matthew on August 25th, 2010 @ 1:55 am
DWIC

a long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right, and raises at first a formidable outcry in defiance of custom. But tumult soon subsides. Time makes more converts than reason. – Thomas Paine

All new ideas a met with a certain degree of hesitation but it is important for people to draw their own conclusion about what is valid and what is not. Please I implore all of you to look at all the facts and decide for yourselves the truth.

#20 
Written By DWIC on December 3rd, 2010 @ 8:37 pm
Michelle

This article sets out to compare The Zeitgeist movie with the Protocols of the…

There is “nothing” anti-semetic in the Zeitgeist movie. Bending a docu-movie to discredit it or make it fit a mold has reached new measures….

Maybe the author needs to define his/her personal definition of antisemetic, first and foremost…it seems the article turned into being more about that accusation than a “valid” comparison to Zionist protocol anyway. Great piece, but totally far-reaching. I do believe you misunderstood the movie.

#21 
Written By Michelle on December 8th, 2010 @ 9:40 pm
Iva

The Zeitgeist ideology has many flaws and may have suspicious background, but this article’s theory is ridiculously over-reacted. Many paragraphs with zero argumentation.

Jews are not even mentioned in the film, and finding antisemitism in e…very single aspect they argue seems to me like paranoia. The film opposes to capitalistic monetary system and values, and it’s unreasonable to equal capitalism with Jews.

”Again, for the sake of trying not to appear as racist as they really are, the word Jew is replaced with “international bankers.”

Oh really?

Anti-semitism is indeed often included as an element in conspiracy theories and I have read many of those, but never one this insane.

#22 
Written By Iva on December 20th, 2010 @ 4:02 am
ExTzm

http://anticultist.wordpress.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kT7b4p7u20k

I could go on..and on..but I’m not going to.

P.s – Good article.Peace.

#23 
Written By ExTzm on January 17th, 2011 @ 5:03 pm
bluenightfox

How sad to critisise an entire movement by watching only one movie, not reading the books or watching the other two movies (Addendum and Moving Forward). It´s as if I would read the latest edition of mathematics and condemn them as too difficult (or anti-social, because so many people can´t understand them).

#24 
Written By bluenightfox on January 27th, 2011 @ 11:52 am
Henry

I found the article a little frustrating. I see myself as a socialist, as a free thinking and open minded person and as a non-racist. I am certainly not an anti-semite, I have many Jewish friends and feel strongly about the persecution of anyone, afterall, we are humans, before we are anything else.

I like Zeitgeist, I like the ideas of personal freedom to think and be, that there are a powerful few that control much of the way the world works and that some of these people, past and present, are Jewish. Does this make me an anti-semite? A racist? A wild eyed conspirator? I do not think so.

My comments to the author are firstly in congratulations on a well written article, but mainly of caution. The ideas portrayed in the article suggest that those who belive that the world is not run by those we elect but by a very rich, very secret elite are anti semites, we are not.

My personal view is that Jewish people have made up a disproportunately large proportion of these super powerful organisations over the years, but they are not alone in their control of the mass media and national and world governing bodies. There are many other races and creeds involved too, not least the Christian bunch. Jewish people are involved in this upper echelon and have been for a very long time. However, and listen to this carefully, THIS DOES NOT MEAN I HATE OR DISTRUST YOU. I am simply a person who does not wish to be controlled by a corrupt government and banking system anymore, I do not want to be enslaved by the powers of interest and debt(watch the second Zeitgeist movie for more on this),my desires are for fairness for all humans from ALL RACES, for freedom from the control of the few and the liberation of the bounty of our planet to feed and house every person on this planet and do away with war and poverty.

Be careful before you jump to the conclusion that free thinkers or believers in these ‘conspiracy theories’ are after Jewish people, some, in fact many of them ARE Jewish people. Our issue is with those who control from above getting richer and richer and drunk on power – NOT THE JEWISH RACE.

I think it would be going too far to call the author paranoid. He/she is clearly well informed and interested and I would say, probaly Jewish. As before, I congratulate him/her on a well written article. Just be careful that your extensive research and disire to counter a counter-theory dooes not turn you into the right wing headhunter your article claims that the Zeitgeist movement have become.

#25 
Written By Henry on March 17th, 2011 @ 12:24 am
Henry

In short, it’s the system I hate, not the people who were most heavily involved in its creation.

#26 
Written By Henry on March 17th, 2011 @ 12:53 am
The Truth

Dear Author,
Your arguments are based on one book by men skilled at taking the truth and bending it to serve their purposes. The reason that The Protocols is so popular is because the points it makes are very true; they have simply been changed to incorporate Jews as the perpetrators. Open your eyes! If we forget the Anti-Semetic nature of the book, then all the arguments begin to make an unsettling sense. It is logical for bankers and powerful leaders to band together to support each other, then through inherent human laziness and greed, it could easily change into a potential “super-government”. The people involved in this are potentially of all ethnicities, religions, and nationalities. The lust for power and wealth transcends all of these factors! These are people who are incredibly patient, who know how to manipulate events to serve their purposes, who can predict cause and effect very accurately, who are always thinking and planning ahead, and who, above all, have access to vast financial, social, and political resources. Take this startling fact; in 2000, 6 companies controlled all major media in the U.S. (no joke, look it up!) All of these companies are controlled by the WTO, (World Trade Organization) a group who has repeatedly shown no respect for the environment or basic civil liberties. This means that all the news you see or hear has been screened by a representative of the WTO who has complete authority over the station and can cut off a broadcast to a prerecorded message in 6 seconds flat at the MOST, possibly less depending on the station’s technology. That means that news that disagrees with the views of the WTO has at the most 6 seconds on air, and only if that was a live report. 6 seconds of truth. Our food industry is controlled by about 4 companies, all of whom answer to: the WTO. See a pattern? The WTO transcends government intervention. Why? Because the governments of the world made it that way. Because of most of the world’s governmental systems, it is incredibly easy for one group to control almost everything. Thus, it would be child’s play for a group of influential people with enough patience and resources to create a single group that controls everything from behind the scenes. And the scariest thing about this is that through things like Homeland Security and the Patriot Act, our governments are helping these individuals to do so. Please, do more research, try to find the truth, before you simply dismiss something as “racist” because you want to be taken seriously. Perhaps if you applied your time and energy to something other than a pointless counter-conspiracy, then you could make a meaningful difference.

#27 
Written By The Truth on May 3rd, 2011 @ 4:30 am
LOL

Obviously, the jews know the world are on to them… that’s why they start crying “anti-semitism! anti-semitism!” over movies like zeitgeist when it doesn’t even mention jews as such. :)

Pathetic.

#28 
Written By LOL on July 2nd, 2011 @ 10:33 pm
Robin

Dude, this is rediculous! You can’t just link Zeitgeist to The Protocols just because both is about world domination.
Not once does Zeitgeist mention the Jews! Take the word Jew away from The Protocols and it’s not anti-semitic either!

#29 
Written By Robin on August 18th, 2011 @ 2:05 pm
Andrea

obviously, ppl saying that Zeitgeist does not mention Jews are completely ignoring the fact that Zionist, or Zion is related primarily to Jews, and the film is totally anticristianity, they say that Christ is the biggest lie ever told.
I believe in personal freedom, Zeitgesit Movement sounds like a world wide socialism to me, too much totalitarian, and it looks like no personal freedom is granted.
I like this word system now because If I want to go to live in the mountains and disconect from the world I have the freedom to do so, I am very practical I lived in a third world country and lived in poverty but it doesnt matter whereever you lived if you work , cultivate the land you can survive.

#30 
Written By Andrea on September 28th, 2011 @ 1:03 am
A

I’m troubled by the logic:
Movie criticizes International Finance -> Some international financiers are Jewish -> Movie is anti-semitic.

Try this:
Critic says Hollywood produces schlock -> Some Hollywood producers are Jewish -> Critic is an anti-semite.

The argument that any critic of any group that may have Jewish members is by definition an anti-semite is pernicious, and ultimately harmful those it pretends to defend.

#31 
Written By A on October 31st, 2011 @ 4:45 pm
Dave

Amazing how quickly the comments about this article quickly become apologists for anti-semitism or use the old trick of accusing us of crying ‘anti-semitism’ every time we don’t like what we hear.

The point is you can’t turn a theory based on a racist myth into a truth just by removing or changing a word. The thing is as flawed as it ever was. So Zeitgeist’s critique of power and revolutionary change contains within it the same flaws as ‘the Protocols’ written by a group of reactionaries over 100 years ago.

Apart from unpleasantness of the coded anti-semitism within the Zeitgeist movies, a big problem is that it creates a false trail away from the real dynamics of capital and state power, which I guess is what it’s there to do.

#32 
Written By Dave on December 7th, 2011 @ 5:41 pm

@Dave
You really see what you want to see here; to say, all this “coded anti-semitism” nonsense is a fiction of your mind.

How else to describe your interpretation of a movement whose core message is simply: “compassion for all, without exception”?

How does that equal “the jews are bad?” it’s pure nonsense.

No, your view is the same tired trope dragged out against anyone critical of our current harmful economic structures of differential advantage. Isn’t it time for new material?

Please help our species evolve; don’t work to hold us back. Thanks to do you part.

#33 
Written By Joseph Matthew on December 7th, 2011 @ 5:47 pm
Paloma Palacios

Does anybody here knows how to talk spanish? i have information that can destroy de Zeitgeist movies(includes conspiracy part and monetary part) and can prove the conections of Peter Joseph to ocultists and to the extreme right.

#34 
Written By Paloma Palacios on April 7th, 2012 @ 11:35 pm
DSK

What to say about the decryption of christian symbolsim, its analogies with former beliefs systems (Horus), what to say about the collusion of international banking with the nazi, about the empire of the city?
Your argumentation is interesting but limited to a tiny aspect of the truth uncovered by the films…

#35 
Written By DSK on April 16th, 2012 @ 5:32 pm
Jackson

an·ti-Sem·i·tism   [an-tee-sem-i-tiz-uhm, an-tahy-]
noun

discrimination against or prejudice or hostility toward Jews.

Origin:
1880–85
Dictionary.com Unabridged
Based on the Random House Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2012.

The Zeitgeist Movement welcomes all including those of Jewish descent, because we don’t discriminate or act in pejudice or hostility toward anyone.

#36 
Written By Jackson on June 6th, 2012 @ 7:09 pm

This is addressed to all members of the Occupy movement. Please note that all that is exposed by this article is the over zealousness of the author in condemning a movement of people before getting his facts straight. The Zeitgeist movement was founded upon the release of the second Zeitgeist film, Addendum, whose conclusion was to present the Resource-based economic model as a solution to the moribund socio-economic system of today. The Zeitgeist movement is, like Occupy, a horizontal movement with a wide spectrum of personalities contributing ideas, and although a few may be predisposed towards conspiracy theory, the thrust of the movement is looking at how we can best wake up the population to the coming economic collapse, and encouraging the spread of ideas that would motivate people into preparing constructively for the collapse, and making the first positive steps into the transition with innovation and collaboration rather than fear and violence. Please see a recent film illustrating the case for a resource based economy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KphWsnhZ4Ag

#37 
Written By Dave Lucas on June 16th, 2012 @ 7:50 pm
desiree

I recently watched all 3 Zeitgeist movies. I then took it upon myself to research the Egyptian god Horus, the creator of Zeitgeist Peter Joseph, futurist Jaques Fresco, and John Perkins author of “Confessions of an Economic Hitman”. I’ve also researched things like doctors who sit on the FDA board and are also paid by drug companies, companies like Monsanto, the World Bank and the Federal Reserve. I’m still in the process of doing research but now that I am educated I truely believe much of what Peter Joseph says.

Whats really important is not how we got here but where we go from here. Anti-semitism aside, what he says about our monetary system is absolutely, 100% factual. An economic collapse is emminent and what are we going to do about it? Sitting around arguing isn’t going to solve any of our problems, only confound them.

#38 
Written By desiree on August 28th, 2012 @ 1:51 am
Jen

I’ve watched and listened to a fair bit of Jacque Fresco now and he is very clearly committed to racial equality and harmony. Cries of anti-Semitism only serves to divide us, surely far better to pursue our common needs and traits as Humans? If we make the elevation of Humanity our goal, we will leave our petty differences behind.

If a small racial/religious group have the majority in the corridors of power so what? If another racial/religious group seem to be unusually violent, and yet another filled with hatred for another, slightly different group, what relevance does this have? Merely that given the background and opportunity some will behave badly, where you get a group, racial, cultural or otherwise they will support each other. Where there are power structures some will climb to the top, contrive and abuse their positions. It is the nature of things.

As individuals we need to open our eyes, be questioning, NOT retreat into dogma and our cultural conditioning and fears.
You cannot “de-mask” someone like Jacque who asks you to think independently, to be sceptical, to research and see for yourself. He offers no absolute truths nor pretends to, but he does raise pertinent questions.

Disregard anything he says that is later disproved or shown to be wrong, change your mind many times as you search for truth. Is this not sense as opposed to dogma?

Jacque is just a guy with some very good ideas asking other humans to join in with designing a better future for Humanity. Simple….join in….but do it with authenticity.

#39 
Written By Jen on November 11th, 2012 @ 10:45 am
bob

This article was the biggest pile of uneducated shit ive ever read. Go read the TZM – orientation, decide for yourselves.
http://thezeitgeistmovement.com/orientation

#40 
Written By bob on April 3rd, 2013 @ 1:42 am
Ian

I don’t think Zeitgeist was about antisemitism. But concerning the first part of the movie, they really have got no evidence to support their claims. A little research on the Egyptian and Greek mythology would reveal that (From real academical sources of course) . People can record a video and put it on internet and it could be viewed a lot, but that doesn’t necessarily mean it is true.

#41 
Written By Ian on May 24th, 2013 @ 5:44 pm
Bons

“The argument is that Christianity is not original in its particular form of mythology, and instead is a reconfiguration of older myths focusing on sun gods. Whether or not we take this argument to be true has very little impact on how we understand modern society” —————————————————————–

Whether or not we take this argument to be true has very little impact? People are idolising a misconception you idiot! People are killing in the name of a religion lost in context, Jesus is the sun at the end of the day, and I believe people like yourself are just covering up the fact that zeitgeist has touched on some home truths. It has no relevance to Jews AT ALL. Article is wrote by a GUEST user. International bankers are being paid the tax because not every international banker is a Jew, and even if this is happening around us in the world, why dismiss it as a myth rather than thinking outside the box? The evidence and coincidences ARE there, we’re told nothings happening by the VERY people we are accusing of corrupting todays socioeconomic world we live in. Wake the F*** up you idiot. Dismissing everything because you’re told of some other coincidences makes you weak minded. All religions fall off the same tree and people blindly follow each individual one, WITHOUT REALISING THEY ALL DERIVE FROM THE SAME ASTROLOGICAL KNOWLEDGE OF AGES, CONSTELLATIONS AND THE SUNS MOVEMENT. DO SOME RESEARCH.

#42 
Written By Bons on June 10th, 2013 @ 10:01 am
Bons

“But concerning the first part of the movie, they really have got no evidence to support their claims”

——- lol. Go speak to an astronomer. Then go speak to a Sumerian / Egyptian archaeologist.

#43 
Written By Bons on June 10th, 2013 @ 10:03 am
demetra niko

This things dont exist, if we dont acknowledge them. Ignorance is bliss…

#44 
Written By demetra niko on August 6th, 2013 @ 2:07 pm
kfreed

The ‘New World Order’/Jewish banking cabal, Bilderberg, Illuminati, Federal Reserve, Gold buggery hysteria is a staple of the far right in America, the purveyors of which are generally right-wingers of the Ron Paul, John Birch Society, Alex Jones, religious right variety. The fact that leftists are now absorbing this bile is due to the fact that our far left is very much in bed with RW Libertarians like Ron Paul, believing them to be concerned with “civil liberties” – they are not. The 9/11 conspiracy theory is Alex Jones’ idiocy for the left.

I was handed a copy at a progressive meet-up by a member of the Green party, brough it home (not without suspicion), but watched it anyway and afterward refurbished it as a Frisbee. Then I promptly let the dealer of this pile of stupid have it, publically. I find it amazing that people fail to see this garbage for what it is – a veritable mashup of various ill conceived conspiracy theories all rolled into one with a shout out to the Occcupy protests at the end.

History lessons are seriously in order.

#45 
Written By kfreed on August 16th, 2013 @ 5:06 pm
kfreed

I went and found that history lesson for the Zeitgeist groupies who have no idea where the ideas in the “film” originate. Hold on to your hats because it ain’t pretty:

An academic analysis: “Spirit of Paranoia:
A Critical Analysis of Peter Joseph’s Zeitgeist”

http://www.academia.edu/2580620/Spirit_of_Paranoia_A_Critical_Analysis_of_Peter_Josephs_Zeitgeist_

#46 
Written By kfreed on August 16th, 2013 @ 6:15 pm
blueman

Yes the protocols were assumed as fake, when first envounteted by the Russian secret police, such was the grandiose cocksure gargantuan task they seemed to outline. Found over a hundred years ago now, they have eerily and creepily (if not frighteningly and shockingly) described the times that followed them to the letter. I myself had indeed accepted them as forgery and likely the vain attempt by the Zionists (founders of Turkic/Siberian-Asian Ashkenazi fake Israel) who may have penned them to be found by the leyman who would indeed then portray the everday Jew as something to be undesired thus cementing anti-semitism in place; playing the victim when your are in fact the aggressor is a common trait of deceipt. Yes I thought fake, but untrue? I never thought that even with the audacious air of smugness which indeed is evident within it,s unbelievable Talmudic text. Over a hundred years old, fairly antiquated, and anti-semitism (possibly as a result of finding these texts) is exactly a tool with which the Zionists can now confidently hide. Now after more thought and considering their age, which we know is at least over a hundred years and who knows how much older, it is reasonable to suggest that they wouldn’t have to be that much older to have been possibly written by one of the master bankster/gangsters themselves aka a Rothschild. Why not or even maybe by Weisshaupt, the original elitist lord, and all as some fanciful dream of opposing religion as the main vehicle of population control for financial gain whilst at the same time implicating religion in their device and then hiding behind the victims of the prejudiced onslaught that ensued by announcing “oooh poor me, im a Jew, your anti-semitic”. What a smokescreen, anti-semitism raised to the dizzy heights of diverting attention away from Zionism to the detriment of the average Jew and the protocols have already started to lose attention for the time being. Genius. It was an intelligent man who laid out those protocols as you can see in their textual formation. I won’t bore you with protocol quotes, im sure you know them. Btw, I am also Jewish; Ashkenazi obviously, the Hebrews died out, Israel doesnt exist, although the Illegal state of Israel & Palestine does for some mad reason. Also reference from this link which has some air of truth to it – http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_zion23.htm

#47 
Written By blueman on August 19th, 2013 @ 12:26 am
daniel alhaj

This article and author is truly an idiot. He/she throws out any points made by the movie as soon as it is remotely related to anti semitism. Example: “Again, for the sake of trying not to appear as racist as they really are, the word Jew is replaced with “international bankers.” This is once again a restatement of an anti-Semitic myth. Just as in all of these examples, the arguments here are lifted from older anti-Semitic theories. They are not offering an explanation of world or national political economic systems, rather they exist solely to foster an attitude of hatred to a certain pre-defined section of society.” What a load of crap to throw out the real facts that money is being printed with no backing of real gold or any form of material. Which is then given to the government as a 100 dollar bill for which they pay 120 inevitably causing an exponential increase in debt which the tax payers have to SLAVE in order to pay and make the 0.1% so wealthy their wiping their ass with 100$ bills. The worst part is that it is a game for them. Wars and land and peoples lives…. Whatever, it just goes to show you that one pathetic attempt of criticizing the film is all it takes for the readers to change their minds

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