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		<title>Free Film: South of the Border</title>
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		<dc:creator>Salman Shaheen</dc:creator>
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		<title>Though Cowards Flinch and Traitors Sneer, We&#8217;ll Fly the Red Flag at an Undetermined Point in the Future</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Salman Shaheen</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Working class universalism is not enough. Labour does not deserve our unwavering loyalty It&#8217;s Friday evening. I should be out partying or down the pub. Instead I&#8217;m sitting in front of my computer, wondering what wondrous topic to opine upon for my column. I&#8217;ve scoured the news. David Cameron&#8217;s doing God and Boris, hopes for [...]]]></description>
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<p><strong>Working class universalism is not enough. Labour does not deserve our unwavering loyalty</strong></p>
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<p>It&#8217;s Friday evening. I should be out partying or down the pub. Instead I&#8217;m sitting in front of my computer, wondering what wondrous topic to opine upon for my column. I&#8217;ve scoured the news. David Cameron&#8217;s doing <a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1225751/David-Cameron-My-faith-God-prayers-I-really-think-Boris-Johnson.html">God and Boris</a>, hopes for a climate change deal this year are looking <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8345868.stm">scandelously dismal</a>, British soldiers are getting shot in Afghanistan and American soldiers are getting shot at home. But what&#8217;s really caught my attention tonight has been the debate on <a href="http://thoughcowardsflinch.com/2009/11/04/and-what-reform-means-to-me-as-well/">Though Cowards Flinch</a> which emerged from an article Guy Aitchison wrote for The Third Estate on Power2010. The discussion on democratic reform, whilst interesting in and of itself, is not really what&#8217;s piqued my interest in this thread, rather the disagreements on left wing organisation within and without the Labour Party.</p>
<p>I very rarely get involved in internal left-wing organisational disputes anymore. Partly because, despite their utility to a point (and it is a definite point), they bore the hell out of me. And this is speaking as someone who considers themselves switched on. For the wider public, sectarianism is to socialism as talking about your ex is to sex. It&#8217;s a turnoff. More crucially, however, these sorts of debates in the end only serve to distract us from our common goals, our common enemies, and the wider issues facing us in a very unjust world. While we&#8217;re bickering about the best way to rally the British workers to our cause, Iraqi civillians are getting blown up, Afghanistan&#8217;s tearing itself apart, kids are slaving away in sweat shops, Palestinians are having their homes knocked down, the ice caps and glaciers are melting and David Cameron&#8217;s doing God. And Boris.</p>
<p>Just this once, however, I&#8217;m going to throw in my two Euro cents. The impetus for this is a comment by Carl Packman in response to my damnation of the Labour Party and everything it stands for these days.</p>
<blockquote><p>I see what you’re saying Salman, but take something that <a href="http://www.cpgb.org.uk/worker/792/culturefit.php">Mark Fischer</a> said, when he gave a lecture on Marxism recently at Eton: ‘I assured the audience that the whole point of Marxists’ identification with the working class was its universalism.’ The very reason British Marxists should remain tied to the Labour party, and not join fringe yoke like SWP, or any of the other Trot splits, is because the party is historically linked to the Labour movement, and is henceforth the site of working class universalism. New Labour neo-liberalism is its inappropriate thorn, those careerists should not be vindicated by socialists jumping ship.</p></blockquote>
<p>I tend to avoid discussing Marxism in 19th (or indeed 20th) century terms anymore. The last time I used the words bourgeoisie and proletariat were in an essay on The German Ideology. I believe many of Marx&#8217;s ideas remain fundamentally relevant to the modern world, but the modern world is dynamic and disjunctive and theory must remain equally adaptable in its adoption. Creationists, after all, are laughed at in modern Europe. Christians who have successfully incorporated Darwinism into their world view remain part of relevant discourse. The reason I personally feel this point warrants discussion however, is because it&#8217;s a debate I&#8217;ve had with Reuben many times. It&#8217;s a very old idea and one that has never failed to leave me feeling cold.</p>
<p>No political party reserves the right to go unchallenged. And no left-wing organisation deserves the right to be reified, to become a concrete fact in and of itself, to demand the unwavering loyalty of the workers regardless of its political positions. If that party is not the right vehicle for change, we should not be in it. I simply cannot accept that because the Labour party was once the locus for progressive working class political activity that it should always be and will always be, irrespective of its current leadership and its present policies. That is the political equivalent of Creationism. It relies on nothing more than blind faith. Not least the faith that New Labour &#8211; a neo-liberal, neo-conservative, repressive war machine that, by gutting the Labour movement and accepting the basic tenets of Thatcherism has done far more damage to the country and the world than the Iron Lady ever could -  is simply a transient thorn. It isn&#8217;t. It&#8217;s been here for the best part of two decades and will remain for the forseeable future. Labour may be heading for a spell in opposition, but the fight against Cameron as he does God and Boris won&#8217;t be led by the old class warriors. It will be led, most likely, by David Miliband. Or another obsequious, spineless, supine, Blairite clone with a pretty face and ugly politics.</p>
<p>And it is precisely this kind of faith-based thinking which will continue the New Labour project long after Brown&#8217;s government has faded to a dim, uncomfortable and embarrassing memory.  New Labour is not a transient thorn. Its intelligent, educated and very bourgeois (look what you&#8217;ve made me do!) architects made a calculated, and very correct, decision that they can afford a sharp swing to the middle ground because whatever they do, their core support of left-wing voters will back them come what may. As long as they believe they can get away with that, New Labour will remain entrenched and the British working class will find nothing more than a few empty platitudes.</p>
<p>The workers of Venezuela once owed their loyalty to the loosely social democratic <em><em>Acción Democrática</em> </em>party. Indeed their largest trade union remains linked it it. But AD was not the right vehicle for a country that desperately needed change. That’s why Chavez rose to fill a gap in political representation, without any reliance on historical links or organisational ties, because he is the right vehicle and the right voice at the right time. That time is now. Parties cannot just be viewed in terms of their history. A week’s a long time in politics and a decade’s even longer. We have to look at their policies here and now and make informed decisions about the change they are likely to bring. Otherwise we’re betraying our own principles, all in the name of some ideological committment to a homogenous, united, organised, class-conscious working class of the last century that thanks to Thatcher, Major, Blair and Brown, no longer exists.</p>
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		<title>An Interview with George Galloway</title>
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		<dc:creator>Salman Shaheen</dc:creator>
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<p><img class="size-medium wp-image-2503 alignright" title="galloway460x276" src="http://thethirdestate.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/galloway460x276-300x180.jpg" alt="galloway460x276" width="256" height="153" />Walking through security at Portcullis House, the fabulously expensive building standing adjacent to the Houses of Parliament, is a bit like going through any airport anywhere in the world. But making your way through the spacious courtyard, past green trees and sun-dappled water features under the enormous sparkling glass dome towering overhead, you could be forgiven for thinking that this is still the seat of power of a great empire. The man I’m here to see, however, is one of the country’s most vocal critics of imperialism. George Galloway rises from his computer to shake my hand as I enter his office. “It’s a pleasure to meet you,” he says. I remind him we met once before when he came to destroy a pro-war American politician at the Cambridge Union many years ago. “You’re far too young to say that,” he laughs.</p>
<p>Born in 1954, Galloway joined the Labour Party at the tender age of thirteen and has been a Member of Parliament since 1987. His strident opposition to the Iraq war, describing Bush and Blair as wolves and calling on British troops to disobey orders, led to his expulsion from the party in 2003. “His comments were disgraceful and wrong,” Tony Blair said. But Galloway has never been one to lie down in the face of his enemies. The following year he formed a new left-wing anti-war party, <a href="http://www.therespectparty.net/">Respect</a>, and in a stunning victory overturned a Labour majority of over 10,000 to oust Blairite Oona King in Bethnal Green and Bow. Since then, however, Respect has suffered a disastrous split, whilst Galloway has found himself having to fend off a barrage of media criticism for his famous decision to appear on Celebrity Big Brother in 2006. With a general election just months away, I ask George Galloway what he thinks his chances are of holding his seat.</p>
<p>“Well I’m not standing again in Bethnal Green and Bow,” he tells me. “Because I promised last time that I’d stand only once and if the people elected me, the next MP for the constituency would be a Bengali.” It’s a straight fight between Labour and Respect in Bethnal Green and Bow, Galloway explains, and with both parties selecting a Bengali candidate, his promise looks set to be kept. “For the first time, the Bengali community will have a member in the House of Commons and that’s something I’m particularly proud of.” Galloway has instead chosen to stand in the neighbouring Tower Hamlets constituency of Poplar and Limehouse. “We have a fighting chance of winning both seats,” he says. Galloway also believes Respect has a chance of breaking through in Birmingham – where the party came a close second in 2005 – and of Salma Yaqoob becoming the first ever Muslim woman MP. “If we could pull those three off, I could retire a happy man four years later.” <img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-2479" title="Portcullis House" src="http://thethirdestate.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/450px-Portcullis_house_artium-300x247.jpg" alt="Portcullis House" width="257" height="211" /> Respect was founded in 2004 as a coalition seeking to bring together the disparate strands of perhaps the greatest mass movement in modern political history. In practice, what emerged was an alliance between George Galloway, a few prominent anti-war activists and the Socialist Workers Party. In 2007, for absolutely no reason that seems at all relevant, the party split in half and the SWP walked out. I ask Galloway if the split has harmed Respect’s chances of achieving the breakthrough he hopes for. “I don’t know if it’s damaged our electability. Certainly not if we do win three seats. Even having one seat in 2005 was almost unprecedented. It had been 60 years since a left of Labour party last won a seat in Parliament in 1945. And in the same constituency by the way.” Galloway has to admit, however, that the split has definitely affected the party’s power outside of Parliament. “The departure of key activists and leaders has weakened us. About half the members left.” I ask Galloway how many members Respect still has. “I don’t have the exact figure,” he says. “It’s a small number of thousands.”</p>
<p>In an interview with The Third Estate in June, <a href="http://thethirdestate.net/2009/06/an-interview-with-mark-steel/">Mark Steel</a> told me that the feud in Respect was about nothing that anyone can work out. It has often seemed to me that whilst the left sits on the steps of the amphitheatre shouting splitters at each other and arguing about what society should look like after the revolution, it is failing to speak to ordinary people about the everyday issues that affect their lives. I ask Galloway how he would explain the split to voters who care about social justice and jobs and housing, but have little interest in sectarian squabbling. “With respect to you, and I don’t mean at all to be offensive, I wouldn’t care to explain it to anyone,” Galloway says. “I think that the arcane disputatious nature of the far-left in Britain is of interest only to the cognoscente and the cognoscente already know the reasons.” Galloway pauses as his phone rings. Sorting out a quick bit of business in ten seconds, he apologises before continuing. “For the rest of the public, Respect was always me, Salma Yaqoob, Ken Loach and so on, and it still is. So we’d rather go forward than look back.”</p>
<p><img class="aligncenter" title="Respect" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/99/Respect_%E2%80%93_The_Unity_Coalition_logo.jpg" alt="" width="552" height="84" /></p>
<p>Respect, of course, will not be standing in every constituency at the next general election. “There are 649 seats, that’s beyond any small party of the left. We will be standing in more seats than just those three, but they’re the target seats.” In the constituencies where Respect is not standing, Galloway explains that they will back other progressive candidates. “Brighton, for example, where <a href="http://thethirdestate.net/2009/09/an-interview-with-caroline-lucas/">Caroline Lucas</a> is standing for the Green Party and has a real chance of winning. I expect that we would support her, we haven’t made final decisions on these constituencies yet. Similarly <a href="http://thethirdestate.net/2009/05/an-inteview-with-peter-tatchell/">Peter Tatchell</a> is standing in Oxford, we would probably support him. There may be one or two other places where we would support a left, anti-war candidate.” I ask Galloway – who has branded the three main parties as &#8220;Tweedle-Dee, Tweedle-Dum and Tweedle-Dee and a half” – whether he would call for a vote for Labour to keep the Conservatives out, and am genuinely surprised by the firebrand MP’s response. “We definitely want the Tories to be defeated, so for the most part that would mean that we ask people to vote Labour.” It was understandable that Respect backed Ken Livingstone against Boris Johnson in last year’s election for London Mayor. But would Respect really ask people to vote for an arch New Labourite who voted for the war? “Most of them are arch New Labourites who backed the war, so we wouldn’t be able to have that as a hard and fast rule. It’s unlikely that the worst of the war criminals would attract our support, but we wouldn’t be able to use who voted for the war entirely as a yardstick.”</p>
<p>It’s surprising to hear Galloway say this – not least because he is Vice President of Stop the War Coalition and perhaps the most outspoken critic of New Labour’s neo-conservative foreign policy in the country – but because in June he called for an immediate election, arguing that the current Parliament is “utterly bereft of credibility.” I ask him if it’s possible that a Labour defeat at the next election could help bring back the party he once called home. “No, I don’t,” he says. “In any case, it would be too high a price to pay. The Tories will be a catastrophe for ordinary people in Britain, for the working people, the poor, the old, the sick, the disabled. So I want to see them defeated.” Galloway has to concede, however, that that’s not very likely. “Looking at the opinion polls, reading the runes, it would appear that the Tories are on course for a big victory. And if that happens, then we’ll have to see what happens to the Labour Party that I spent almost forty years in.”</p>
<p>Labour’s abandonment of the left goes part of the way towards explaining the success of Respect. But it is Blair’s utter betrayal of British Muslims, incensed by the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, which explains why so many Labour voters in East London and Birmingham have turned to Respect. Not least because of Galloway’s standing amongst Muslims. When housemates on Celebrity Big Brother were asked to rank themselves in order of fame, he mused: “If we&#8217;re talking worldwide fame, I&#8217;m most famous. Virtually every Muslim in the world knows who I am.” Whether or not that’s true, George Galloway has done perhaps more than anyone else in the country to help politicise marginalised Muslim communities, introducing to them left-wing politics as an answer to racism, Islamophobia, imperialism and neo-conservatism. But there’s another, more reactionary, current amongst Muslim communities that seeks to present itself as the sole representative of Islamic identity. I ask Galloway if Respect could do more to challenge religious fundamentalism and social conservativism amongst the communities it represents? “No,” he says, “I think the first part of our agenda is big enough. The question of social conservatism within Muslim communities is a matter for them largely.”</p>
<p><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-2484" title="George Galloway meets Saddam Hussein" src="http://thethirdestate.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/George-Galloway_Saddam-Hussein-300x207.jpg" alt="George Galloway meets Saddam Hussein" width="300" height="207" /></p>
<p>It’s a contentious point, and one that many on the liberal left will disagree with, but Galloway has never been afraid of courting controversy. In 1994, he flew to Iraq to meet Saddam Hussein in an effort to prevent war and end the sanctions which were bringing further immiseration to the Iraqi people, saluting their courage, their strength and their indefatigability. More recently he has spoken out in <a href="http://blogs.dailyrecord.co.uk/georgegalloway/2009/06/you-can-count-on-the-fact-elec.html#more">support of Ahmedinejad</a> in Iran following the disputed elections, attacking the protesters as class enemies and drawing a comparison with opposition to Chavez’s reforms in Venezuela. But despite the similarity in their anti-imperialist rhetoric, is it really fair to compare the ultra-conservative, fundamentalist Ahmedinejad with the democratic socialist Chavez? “I’m not sure that Chavez would describe himself as a democratic socialist,” Galloway says. “But I do think the comparisons between them are stark. Not just in their international rhetoric, though that is a very significant thing for me, but in terms of their social base. The social base of Ahmedinejad is the poor masses; the enemies of Ahmedinejad are the English speaking, highly-educated, well-off elite. I’ve been several times to Venezuela, and that’s exactly the polarisation that exists there.”</p>
<p>Galloway concedes that Ahmedinejad is not a socialist, whilst Chavez is. But both, he argues, are populists. “I do think you can measure a man by his enemies, and both have the same enemies. My main interest in Iran is that is should remain an independent country and not a puppet of the West like virtually all of the Muslim countries already are, and to that extent I’m glad that Ahmedinejad won over Moussavi who, whether he liked it or not, was riding a wave of people who wished to see the return of the Pahlavi dynasty and who wished to see Iran as an outcrop of the United States. And I’m sure that he did win.”</p>
<p>It’s an uncomfortable prospect, that the left must lend its tacit support to tyrants opposed to Western imperialism, and even though Galloway has described Ahmadinejad’s denial of the Holocaust as “a disgrace”, I ask him, if the enemy of my enemy must always be my friend? “No,” he says. “That’s why I could never line up behind the dictatorship in Burma. It’s anti-American, but I could never say that that enemy of my enemy is my friend.”</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="aligncenter" title="George Galloway MP" src="http://thethirdestate.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/banner.jpg" alt="George Galloway MP" width="256" height="195" /></p>
<p>Nevertheless, Galloway tells me that Ahmedinejad is the president of an important country and we’ll just have to accept it. “Iran is much more important than the sort of knuckle-dragging ignoramuses in the British media have realised. Its geo-political position is strategically significant, it has a very young population, it has an ocean of oil and gas and soon will have a nuclear power industry, famously as we know.” It is for these reasons that Galloway argues Iran must be treated with more respect. “Ahmedinejad is the president, that’s why he was speaking at the United Nations a fortnight ago, there’s no point in second guessing other people’s choice of their leaders. I believe strongly that every people have the right to choose their own leaders and not have them chosen by their adversaries.”</p>
<p>It’s a position to which Galloway has remained consistent throughout his opposition to the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. But with violence surging in Afghanistan, what is the answer to the country’s problems now? “The opposite of what we’re currently doing,” he says. “The war is doomed, it cannot be won. No one has successfully occupied Afghanistan, not even Alexander the Great, and Bob Ainsworth definitely isn’t Alexander the Great. No matter how many soldiers they pour in there, they’ll never pour as many in as the former Soviet Union did. That occupation failed as this one is bound to.” Galloway believes that a negotiated withdrawal is inevitable. “It’s better that that starts now rather than later. Many more people will be alive, the radicalisation of the Muslim world, which is a real danger, will be lessened, we’ll be able to spend the money we’re burning in Afghanistan on our own people at home, and we’ll begin to defuse the tensions that exist in our own country between Muslims and non-Muslims.”</p>
<p>But withdrawal brings with it its own dangers, not least the possibility of the Taliban returning to power. I ask Galloway what he thinks will happen to Afghanistan? “The first thing I need to say, and it’s a contentious point, is that it’s none of our business what happens. British people, after several hundred years of empire, have become used to the idea that we have some right, maybe even some duty, to determine what happens in other people’s countries. I never believed that and I certainly don’t believe it now when we’re an almost bankrupt set of islands off the coast of mainland Europe. The days when the building you’re currently in ruled a quarter of all the world’s population are gone. Hallelujah!”</p>
<p>That’s not to say that Galloway is unconcerned with the future of Afghanistan. “I have interests in that country as a British citizen and they are this: that it must not be a base for those who wish to harm me, us, our country and our legitimate interests.” However, he believes that it is important to separate the pan-Islamist al Qaeda from “Johnny Afghan who just wants foreigners out of his country.” These, he argues, were never the same thing. “Insofar as there’s an al Qaeda presence in Afghanistan, it was we who sent it there, paid for it, armed it, glorified it, paraded it at the Tory conference and at Ronald Reagan’s Republican national convention, called them Mujahedeen and all that you know. To punish the Afghans for al Qaeda when we sent it there, is double jeopardy.” Instead Galloway wants to see a negotiated outcome with the Afghan forces to ensure that the country is not used as a base to harm Britain and its legitimate interests. “I can’t guarantee that Afghanistan will be a lovely place if the foreign armies withdraw, but I can guarantee it will never be a lovely place if they don’t.”</p>
<p><img class="aligncenter" title="Palestine" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/00/Flag_of_Palestine.svg/800px-Flag_of_Palestine.svg.png" alt="" width="256" height="107" /></p>
<p>There are many far-from-lovely places in the world that Galloway is concerned about, but perhaps none more so than Palestine. He recently returned from a convoy to break the Israeli siege of Gaza, the occupied territory which would form part of any future Palestinian state. But, I ask him, is a two-state solution really the best way to achieve justice for the Palestinian people? “I’m pleased that Hamas and Fatah have signed a unity agreement,” he says. “I hope it works. The division within the Palestinian ranks has been catastrophic for them and for those of us who support them from the outside, as I have been doing now for almost 35 years of my life. As to what the final outcome is, this is really a matter for them.” Galloway says that if the Palestinians decide on a two-state solution then he, as a supporter of their cause, must accept that. “My own personal view, however, is that Palestine is too small, the issue of the refugees too great, the topographic and demographic cleansing that has occurred has been too extensive. The building of the wall, the ethnic cleansing of East Jerusalem, the building of the settlements, which are really cities, have all been too extensive to make the separation of this small piece of land into two viable states realistic.”</p>
<p>Galloway is keen to point out that he does not support sectarian countries. “When Mandela was asked by the Boers at the end of Apartheid if they could have the Orange Free State as a white state, he said that he didn’t believe in white states or black states, only democratic states. One man, one woman, one vote, one government and everyone equal under the law. And if I believe that in South Africa, why should I change it for Palestine?” Instead he would like to see a democratic state, where everyone is equal, where all the existing inhabitants have the right to live, and all the people who were driven from the land have the right to return. “One state between the river and the sea is by far the best solution.”</p>
<p>In the meantime, Galloway believes that the convoys he is leading to Gaza to bring aid to the Palestinian people are crucial acts of defiance and solidarity. “I’m leading another one on the 6th of December to arrive on the 27th, which is the anniversary of the war. I think that these attempts to break the blockade are the most urgent priority for solidarity organisations around the world. We can march here, and protest here, and hold public meetings, but they make little difference.”</p>
<p>Somehow I didn’t expect George Galloway – the firebrand activist and unremitting radical who has always spoken his mind even when his opponents don’t like what’s on it – to say any different. His has always been one of the loudest voices for change and he has never lacked the courage of his convictions. I thank him for his time and make my way back through the courtyard and the green trees and sun-dappled water features under the enormous sparkling glass dome: the seat of power of an almost bankrupt set of islands off the coast of mainland Europe. On my way home, I pass Brian Haw, whose protest, like Galloway’s, will continue unabated till the people in power take notice.</p>
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<p><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-1038" title="Chavez &amp; Ahmadinejad" src="http://thethirdestate.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/chavez_ahmadinejad-297x300.jpg" alt="Chavez &amp; Ahmadinejad" width="297" height="300" />Hugo Chavez has a long memory. Himself the victim of a right-wing coup backed by the country’s elite, it is hardly surprising that the Venezuelan leader has been amongst the most vocal supporters of protesters in Honduras struggling to restore Manuel Zelaya, the leftist president ousted in a military coup last week. As Zelaya attempted to land his plane in Honduras on Sunday, supporters converged on the airport where they were met with stiff resistance from the military. Mourning the protesters killed, Chavez declared a “moral victory”, denouncing the repressive tactics of the military as cowardly for “abusing the people of Honduras.”</p>
<p>This fundamentally pro-democratic position seems difficult to reconcile with his unwavering support for Ahmedinejad in Iran. At the height of the protests following the disputed Iranian elections – widely discredited by Western governments and media – Chavez declared: “Ahmadinejad&#8217;s triumph was a triumph all the way. They are trying to stain Ahmadinejad&#8217;s triumph and through that weaken the government and the Islamic revolution. I know they will not succeed.” It was the 2002 CIA backed coup against Chavez that pushed him to the left. And for all his reforms, using the country’s vast oil wealth to raise the quality of life for the poorest sections of Venezuelan society, it was his steadfast opposition to US imperialism and to the policies of George W. Bush that endeared him to activists around the world.</p>
<p>George W. Bush was a man who saw the world in black and white. “You’re either with us or with the terrorists,” he famously declared. Chavez is a product of that time and it is in that context that he found a curious ally in the ultra conservative Ahmedinejad. But Obama’s election signals a more nuanced approach to foreign relations. He shared Chavez’s condemnation of the coup in Honduras, but wisely remained silent on the Iranian elections. In this new era of diplomacy which recognises a whole spectrum of grey, anti-imperialism for anti-imperialism’s sake – especially when it comes at the expense of the democratic hopes of the Iranian people – just cannot wash anymore. My enemy’s enemy should not always be my friend.</p>
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<p><img class="alignright" title="Mark Steel" src="http://media.ents24.com/2/8/6/9/6/286966.jpeg" alt="" width="300" height="225" />There’s a bit in <em>Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan</em> where the eponymous character starts paraphrasing Moby Dick. “I&#8217;ll chase him round the moons of Nibia and round the Antares Maelstrom and round Perdition&#8217;s flames before I give him up!” he cries. Tracking down comedian Mark Steel can be a bit like that. Between appearances on shows like <em>QI</em>, <em>Have I Got News For You</em> and <em>Mock the Week</em>, and his stand-up performances, including this year’s <em>Mark Steel’s In Town</em> broadcast on Radio 4 from the more obscure parts of Britain, it’s hardly surprising he has a somewhat hectic schedule. But, in the wake of the disastrous European Elections, Steel was kind enough to talk to me about that perennially gloomy topic, the state of the Left today, and the few rays of light he’s seen.</p>
<p>Thirty years after <em>Monty Python’s Life of Brian</em>, the British Left is still sitting on the steps of the amphitheatre shouting “Splitters!” It’s an unfortunate pattern that hasn’t gone unnoticed by Mark Steel, who wrote in the <a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/mark-steel/mark-steel-turn-left-and-then-left-again-1695316.html">Independent </a>earlier this month that the Left, despite seemingly facing ideal conditions for success, “has a self-destruct button, and can&#8217;t stand being popular.” But did he have high hopes for Respect following the greatest mass movement of our time? “Respect had difficulties, but it had potential,” he says. “Whether something succeeds or not is not just a matter of whether it has a figurehead that gets on the news and so on, although that is very helpful, but it’s about getting a group of people in every area who seem to be doing things.” It seems an obvious starting point and Steel is quick to point out that it’s nothing new. “Going back to the English Civil War, that’s how agitation groups managed to get some sort of hearing. It’s not just being on the radio and saying things that people like.”</p>
<p>Of course, the state of the Left would be more depressing than even I imagined if the only successes it could tout were almost four centuries ago. Steel’s more recent inspirations can be found in the Scottish Socialist Party. “The SSP managed to get to a point where it could get 7% of the vote across the whole of Scotland,” he says. “That’s because Tommy Sheridan and his colleagues were known through the 90s, not just because they campaigned over the poll tax, but also when people who refused to pay had bailiffs coming round, the SSP organised people in the area to defend that person’s property.” It was a tactic, Steel argues, that was very successful both in the short-term and in the long-term. “In the short-term it meant people’s armchairs weren’t dragged out by the bailiffs. In the long-term it meant the poll tax was defeated.” Steel notes that they won themselves an immense amount of credibility over that. People trusted them. “They won an enormous amount of respect. Then of course they pissed it all up against the fucking wall with Sheridan accused of shagging someone in Manchester.”</p>
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<p>And that’s the self-destruct button? “That’s the self-destruct button. But they did manage to get to that place first. And similarly, Respect did win in Bethnal Green. You can laugh at all the cat business. But it took an immense amount of organisation. George [Galloway] had won such respect because of his constant agitating over the war. But it wasn’t just that. There’s a company in Brick Lane that a lot of Bengali people put their money into and it went bankrupt, and George has campaigned over that and won concessions. It’s a combination of local everyday life things and the big issues such as the war in Iraq that made people trust him.”</p>
<p>In the end, though, Respect “tore itself apart in a feud about nothing that anyone can work out.” Did Steel find himself won over by Galloway’s Respect Renewal in light of his successes? “I’m not a member of Respect and I’m not going to be. But the Socialist Workers Party caused that feud. They’ve admitted as much now. In their own words, they ‘went nuclear’. They justified it as a Left-Right split. But once you end up categorising Ken Loach as a witch hunter then you’ve gone a bit haywire haven’t you?”</p>
<p>Following the election of two BNP members to the European Parliament, the SWP put out an <a href="http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/art.php?id=18114">open letter to the Left</a> urging unity for the next election. Its unusually conciliatory tone seemed to <a href="http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=4203">some bloggers</a> to be a step in the right direction. “I don’t think anyone will take the blindest bit of notice,” Steel says and it’s hard not to miss the sense of bitterness in his voice now. “It’s hilarious! You can’t go round trashing everything and everybody and then… you know, it was awful, really, really awful. It was particularly awful for longstanding SWP members, because you’d think, what the hell are we doing?” Steel is a great fan of Linda Smith, the chair of Respect Renewal. He describes her as “one of the most principled trade unionists I’ve ever known, a really, really gutsy woman.” But, “because she took the George Galloway side, the SWP called her a ballot rigger and invented this entirely fictitious story that she’d rigged her election position. You can’t then a year later write a letter to her and say ‘well let’s let all that be past and let’s see if we can set up something else.’” Steel’s friends would seem to agree with him. “I’ve got a mate who says it’s like an alcoholic going back to his wife and saying ‘I’ll be different this time I promise!’”</p>
<p><img class="alignleft" title="Whats Going On?" src="http://litmob.com/covers/whats_going_on.jpg" alt="" width="327" height="327" />Steel himself did not have the easiest of divorces from the SWP. It would be hard to imagine Alex Callinicos’s <a href="http://www.socialistreview.org.uk/article.php?articlenumber=10514">review </a>of his memoir <a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Whats-Going-Meanderings-Comic-Confusion/dp/1847372813"><em>What’s Going On? </em></a>being so negative if he were still a member of the party, whilst a certain capitalised colloquialism for the female anatomy has been amongst the more hateful comments he has received. “One bloke called me a TWAT and he was a twat. He wrote about a hundred comments on my website, each one managing to beat the previous ones in their incoherence and madness.” But Steel does not regret his experiences over the past decades. “If you leave something you’ve been in for a long time, most people say they don’t regret it except that they wish they’d left a couple of years earlier. It’s a bit like when your marriage breaks up. I probably should have left a bit earlier.” But, he says, “When I joined the SWP, it was young and a natural home for people who wanted to campaign over every issue. Not only that, it had the ideas.” The party’s analysis of the collapsing Soviet Union as a state capitalist society is a case in point. “It doesn’t mean that socialism is redundant, it proves that those states were not socialist in the first place, which is what we always said. If you believe that those countries were socialist, either you defend them on the ridiculous ground that these barbaric bloody places were the sort of regimes that we should aspire to recreate, or you conclude that socialism is bound to end up with people in gulags for looking at the regional politburo officer the wrong way.”</p>
<p>I ask Steel if there’s anywhere in the world that he does consider socialist and if there’s any country he draws encouragement from. “I think Cuba you can draw encouragement from, but I don’t think it’s socialist,” he says. “Venezuela I don’t believe is in the control of the working class, but Chavez has clearly gone out of his way to protect his working class base by using the oil money to fund projects that the ruling class hate. Henceforth three times they’ve risen up in rage, with the backing of George Bush, to try to overthrow the democratically elected government and every time he was forced back by a genuine uprising. I think anyone vaguely interested in human decency must be encouraged by that.”</p>
<p>Mark Steel believes that Chavez in Venezuela has done exactly the sort of thing the Left should be doing here. “I would imagine in Venezuela, lots of people would think ‘oh yeah he goes on about socialism and anti- imperialism and this, that and the other, and I sort of half follow what he’s going on about, but I tell you what, the schools are better since he was in.’ And that’s what socialists have to do. You win a hearing on the bigger issues by proving that you can handle the day to day issues.”</p>
<p>For Steel, this can’t be achieved by tiny parties shuffling themselves into different transient alliances. It has to be built from the bottom up with campaigners taking principled stances on the issues that matter to people. “I saw the Green Party doing that in lots of areas. There was a point when the socialist groups would do that, but the Greens have occupied that territory now.”</p>
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<p>It’s easy for me to understand where Steel’s coming from. Although I spent a fraction of the time he did in the SWP, I am a former member of Respect who has found a new political home in the Green Party. But, I put it to Steel; can the Greens ever whip disaffected socialists like us into the kind of flag-waving fist-raising zeal of the past? “I don’t know,” he says after some thought. “There is going to be some tension between a Green Party outlook and a socialist outlook. The Greens are not based on trade unions. But there is socialist contingent in the Greens that is growing.” Steel spoke at their conference last year. “I was very impressed with them,” he says. “Caroline Lucas is a very impressive character. There are people in the Greens, Jonathon Porritt type characters, who are very much establishment people, free market, friends with Prince Charles, which doesn’t sit easy with someone on the Left. But they’ve definitely moved towards a more agitational stance and I think that socialists could certainly feel comfortable within the Greens.”</p>
<p>Of course the Greens, despite substantially increasing their share of the vote in the European Elections, significantly failed to increase their number of seats. Steel often jokes that he jinxes every cause he supports. But what’s really holding the Left back? “It’s not because the SWP and George Galloway and Tommy Sheridan are all bonkers. The reason that these people are to different degrees bonkers is because it has been very, very difficult to promote socialist ideas in Britain in recent times. The working class movement in this country was smashed much more seriously than anywhere else in Western Europe, by Thatcher’s laws initially, and then ideologically by Blair.”</p>
<p>Steel cut his political teeth in Thatcher’s Britain. But it is for Tony Blair that it seems he reserves most of his angry incredulity. “The extraordinary thing about Blair is not just that he said and did what he did, but that the bulk of the labour movement went along with it, however grudgingly. Even at the end, after Iraq, after all that had gone on, all the privatisation, all the scandals, he spoke at the TUC and apart from Bob Crow and a few people from the RMT, they just let him.” There&#8217;s a bit in <em>Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan</em>, when another character, one James T. Kirk, tells a young officer: &#8220;How we deal with death is at least as important as how we deal with life.&#8221;</p>
<p><img class="aligncenter" title="Mark Steel" src="https://brindley.halton.gov.uk/peo/images/shows//Mark%20Steel.jpg" alt="" width="253" height="334" /></p>
<p style="text-align: left;">On his website, Mark Steel jokes, “I&#8217;ve spoken at lots of demonstrations and union meetings and protests, and appeared at quite a few benefits, and yet capitalism still seems to rule the world.” And perhaps it’s in this that we can find our greatest inspiration in these troubling times. Throughout his career Steel has successfully used comedy as a vehicle for politics and politics as a subject for comedy. The leftists who’ve been prepared to satirise their own viewpoints have always had more resonance for me than those who are dour and right-on to the point of humourlessness. Perhaps the greatest lesson we can learn from people like Mark Steel, is that laughing at our beliefs can stop us crying because of them.</p>
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		<title>Venezuela and the Media</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 14:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Salman Shaheen</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is nothing more totally and utterly soul destroying to the well-intentioned liberal-lefty than seeing a revolution betrayed. It&#8217;s a wound. A bloody deep wound. And the salt in that bloody deep wound is that it&#8217;s happened in almost every single case. I could probably count the number of genuinely socialist governments of which I [...]]]></description>
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<p class="wp-caption-dd">There is nothing more totally and utterly soul destroying to the well-intentioned liberal-lefty than seeing a revolution betrayed. It&#8217;s a wound. A bloody deep wound. And the salt in that bloody deep wound is that it&#8217;s happened in almost every single case. I could probably count the number of genuinely socialist governments of which I feel any sort of pride on one hand. Possibly on one finger. And that one sky-wards index digit would be Venezuela under the government of Hugo Chavez.</p>
<p>It is, then, always uncomfortable to hear any reports of freedoms of speech and of the press being restricted in Venezuela. As one of the only, if not the only, truly successful experiments with modern socialism, it has a lot riding on it. Not least the hopes, and very well-founded fears, of a severely wounded British Left. As much as those on the left might like to disregard offhand the opinions espoused by the mainstream &#8211; and often centre-right &#8211; Western media, no report of human rights violations or of restricted democratic freedoms should be ignored. Nor should we attempt to explain them away and brush them neatly under the carpet. The road to hell is paved with good intentions and the road to a revolution betrayed is paved by an uncritical world, an uncritical population and uncritical support. Comrade Chavez &#8211; for all the extremely positive things he has done for the poorest sections of Venezuelan society &#8211; is not always right.</p>
<p>That said, and this vital caveat aside, it is also important to identify the cases where the Venezuelan government has been unfairly accused of restricting freedoms, and the case of RCTV is a significant one. In May 2007, Chavez refused to renew RCTV&#8217;s public broadcasting license on the grounds that it openly backed the right-wing coup against his government in 2002. Now of course, freedoms of the press should never be restricted, even if we find ourselves disagreeing with the message. Democracy, or the ideal of democracy, is founded on disagreement. But it is crucial to understand the refusal to renew RCTV&#8217;s license does not constitute an attack on the free media. Firstly, the channel has not been banned from broadcasting, as many European and American media outlets erroneously reported at the time. RCTV continues to broadcast on cable and satellite. Secondly, and most importantly, one has to ask oneself, if the BBC had openly backed a coup against the British government, would it be permitted to continue in its position as the nation&#8217;s favourite public service broadcaster? Unlikely. One only has to recall the furore of the Hutton inquiry. The Venezuelan government&#8217;s actions in this case have been entirely legitimate. This is not a case of simple biased reporting. The Venezuelan media is rife with anti-government bias. This is a case of a television channel deliberately doctoring reports and misrepresenting facts to aid an armed overthrowal of a democratically elected government. Accordingly, <a href="http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/news/4268">this week</a>, the Inter-American Count of Human Rights ruled that the Venezuelan government did not violate the freedom of expression, equality before the law, or private property of Radio Caracas Televisión.</p>
<p>It goes without saying that we should criticise all abuses of human rights and restrictions of democratic freedoms wherever we find them. But we should not judge Venezuela by standards we do not apply to ourselves. Anyone in the British media criticising Chavez for holding a referendum to abolish term limits who has not quite genuinely called for term limits to be imposed on British Prime Ministers really isn&#8217;t up to the task of political journalism. Or, for that matter, tying their own shoelaces. There are causes for concern in Venezuela. Corruption is well documented at various levels of government and in the state oil company. Power has become increasingly centralised under Hugo Chavez. There&#8217;s definitely an argument to be made that he has created a cult of personality around himself in common with a long history of Latin American populism. These trends should be analysed and criticised and resisted to avoid yet another bloody deep and salty wound. And it is in this genuine reflection that we can better expose the cries of Wolf from media outlets hostile not to the power wielded by Chavez, but to his ideas and to the one idea that is more dangerous, more pernicious than any other. That this whole socialism thing might actually work!</p>
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		<title>New Labour&#8217;s faux-nationalistic outrage should be exposed for the pathetic charade that it is</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It appears that foreign disdain for British economic policy is now provoking a faux-nationalistic backlash from our high-ranking politicians; see Peter Mandelson&#8217;s &#8216;who the fuck does this guy think he is?&#8217; rant against Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz&#8217;s attack on the state of the British economy for a good example. Economic rhetoric, it would seem, is [...]]]></description>
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<p>It appears that foreign disdain for British economic policy is now provoking a faux-nationalistic backlash from our high-ranking politicians; see Peter Mandelson&#8217;s &#8216;who the fuck does this guy think he is?&#8217; rant against Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz&#8217;s attack on the state of the British economy for a good example. Economic rhetoric, it would seem, is becoming more than slightly tinged with this siege mentality and associated defense of years of excess stimulated by decades of Labour and Conservative policy. This is a futile means by which these people now seek to invoke a similar sentiment amongst a disheartened populace now bereft of consumer confidence. The logic seems clear enough; after all, what better way to inculcate a national &#8216;we&#8217;ll show the bastards&#8217; attitude, with all the political benefits that this entails, than a good old piece of MNC-bashing-especially one which has become a byword in the popular consciousness for third world exploitation and heartless mass production techniques (and, one might add, a company with its base in the US of A, adding an extra element of &#8216;fuck these condescending pricks&#8217; to the mixture). But on what grounds do the likes of Mandelson and his New Labourite ilk think that they have the right to base their outbursts?</p>
<p>The deification of the City of London, almost to the extent that it has become a de facto republic, is not, in my opinion, acceptable under any terms. The one way in which an element of justice might have been incorporated to such a policy, however, might have been its genuine harnessing within a redistributive social market economy, perhaps similar in vein to Scandinavian models over the past few decades (though I would be inclined to go a lot further), using the massive financial and undeniably wealth generating gains accrued in order to utilise this example of  unmitigated &#8216;meritocracy&#8217; (though the veracity of such a term as applied here is questionable given the almighty balls-up that eventually ensued) as a means to launch genuine-by which I mean redistributive in concretely financial terms-social welfare projects. Hugo Chavez has been constantly criticised, not least within the pages of The Economist, for supposedly allowing the infrastructure of the oil industry, the backbone of Venezuelan GDP and government revenue, to suffer by focusing more on wealth redistribution and socially-orientated spending projects than internal development of his cash-cow, something which has been largely attributed to his strong measures aimed at reducing foreign MNC influence in this sphere. And it would seem fair to suggest that he could possibly have managed this resource with more effficacy.  But then again, by what other means is it moral or justifiable to have and to maintain such a huge revenue generating tool other than to use its products to improve the lives of those who need it most? At least Chavez has a functioning, and more importantly, correctly aligned, moral compass, as reflected in the orientation of his social policies.</p>
<p>Gordon  Brown and his ilk have not done this, even in the more moderate fashion that would be necessitated within the context of Britain&#8217;s liberal market economy. 11 years of City-centric policies and the provision of special exceptions to enhance both the revenue and atrractiveness of the Square Mile as a global financial capital, as well as greatly stimulating and making attractive the prospects for foreign direct investment, have not been followed up with a genuine attempt to utilise the proceeds of this system in order to ensure, as any Labour government surely should, that meritocracy-or, to put it more contentiously, the phenomonon of having been born with more intelligence and/or a more affluent family background than others-is not the distinguishing and defining feature of British society to the detriment of all other principles of justice. Rather, the duty of social responsibility, a hackneyed staple of a great deal of New Labour and Tory rhetoric, has, as many of my co-contributors on this site will surely affirm, largely taken the unbelievably patronising form of &#8216;protecting people from themselves&#8217; via, for example, expensive anti-smoking and alcohol campaigns and exhorbitant taxes on tobacco, with the converse effect of helping to cripple the budgets of those who need help most (and no, the solution is not simply &#8216;well they should stop smoking and drinking then, shouldn&#8217;t they, unless you are completely culturally illiterate).  So it is with a large helping of bare faced cheek that New Labour ministers now seek to harness national opinion in order to militate against those dastardy foreigners and corrupt RBS bankers to bring about a hard-headed &#8216;we&#8217;ll get through this&#8217; attitude and focus attention on yankee condescension and a culture of corporate excess rather than their own failings in both a regulatory and redistributive (and, by implication owing to the supposed political philosophy of any Labour government, political) capacity.</p>
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		<title>Chavez Victory Speech</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ok, So my promised update is a little late. But in the referendum the Si camp won with 54% of the vote. Chavez now has the opportuunity to put himself before the Venezuelan people in 2012. Above is his victory speech. Related Posts:Take Back Parliament rallyEhud Olmert&#8217;s Speech Gloriously Disrupted in San FransiscoMore footage of [...]]]></description>
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<p>Ok, So my promised update is a little late. But in the referendum the Si camp won with 54% of the vote. Chavez now has the opportuunity to put himself before the Venezuelan people in 2012. Above is his victory speech.</p>
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		<title>Venezuela Votes</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 15:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Reuben Bard-Rosenberg</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Today Venezuelans are voting on a proposal to remove laws which limit the president to two terms in office. As usual hyperbolic phrases are being thrown around in the mainstream media. Chavez, as The Times puts it, is seeking power for life. Yet  the proposed amendments would essentially place Venezuela on a similar constitutional footing [...]]]></description>
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<p>Today Venezuelans are voting on a proposal to remove laws which limit the president to two terms in office. As usual hyperbolic phrases are being thrown around in the mainstream media. Chavez, as The Times puts it, is seeking <a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article5683385.ece">power for life</a>. Yet  the proposed amendments would essentially place Venezuela on a similar constitutional footing to Britain and France and many other western democracies, in which a premier can continue in office as long as the people continue to re-elect him. Today’s vote will determine whether Venezuela’s political future will be in the hands of  the people and voters, or whether it will be determined by somewhat arbitrary regulations. From what I have read opinion polls are in his favour. Updates to follow when results are announced.</p>
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