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		<title>Egemen Bagis in Greece</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Guest post by Christos Loutradis Yesterday, Egemen Bagis, Turkey&#8217;s chief EU negotiator, gave a speech in Greece on strengthening ties between the former rivals, Turkey&#8217;s EU candidacy and how to resolve the thorny issue of Cyprus. Press-Gr&#8217;s Christos Loutradis reports for The Third Estate It was a speech of lifting taboos. Egemen Bagis, chief EU [...]]]></description>
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<p><strong>Guest post by <a href="http://press-gr.blogspot.com/">Christos Loutradis</a></strong></p>
<p><strong>Yesterday, Egemen Bagis, Turkey&#8217;s chief EU negotiator, gave a speech in Greece on strengthening ties between the former rivals, Turkey&#8217;s EU candidacy and how to resolve the thorny issue of Cyprus. <a href="http://press-gr.blogspot.com/">Press-Gr&#8217;s</a> Christos Loutradis reports for The Third Estate</strong></p>
<p>It was a speech of lifting taboos. Egemen Bagis, chief EU negotiator and Turkish Minister of State, spoke for the first time to a Greek audience in a lecture that was organised by the International Centre for Black Sea Studies. The audience comprised the political, academic and diplomatic elite of Greece and the rest of the world. From the Government side, the Member of Parliament Michalis Katrinis, from the previous Government of New Democracy, the ex deputy minister of Foreign Affairs Giannis Valinakis, and Giorgos Dendias, a personal friend of Egemen Bagis and the former minister of Justice. The most surprising presence, however, was that of Giannis Karantis, ex chief of the Greek Intelligence Service and MP for the ultra-nationalist party LAOS.</p>
<p>Bagis began his speech with a  moving opening, stating that he feels proud “to be in the birthplace of Democracy”. In addition, he argued that “today&#8217;s event, your presence shows the great potential for the betterment of the relations between the two nations.”</p>
<p>“Turkey and Greece share a common fate and a common future,” the chief negotiator of Turkey added.</p>
<p>The Greek audience responded with satisfaction when Bagis proclaimed that “a new era has started in the relations of the two countries, with the Government of Papandreou willing to build a peaceful future with Turkey.”</p>
<p>The Minister added that during this period, Erdogan&#8217;s Government has demolished the taboos of the Turkish Society, by addressing the Kurdish problem and dealing with all the open disputes with Armenia. “It is time to talk to Greece, too.”</p>
<p>The most interesting part of Bagis’s speech, however, was the revelation that Greek Prime Minister, George Papandreou and Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan agreed to the formulation of a co-operation council between the two nations that will discuss at the highest level all the disputes that may arise in the future. In addition, Bagis said that Erdogan plans to visit Athens in the near future.</p>
<p><strong>EU-Turkish Relations</strong></p>
<p>The chief negotiator suggested that accepting Turkey into the European Union would be a win-win situation. The EU will benefit from the role of Turkey as “a bridge between different civilizations, religions and cultures”. In addition he added that Turkey&#8217;s bid to join the EU serves as “a source of inspiration for the deprived of the world such as the Muslim community.”</p>
<p>Giannis Ioakeimidis, professor of International Relations at the University of Athens, asked Bagis if Turkey will accept a special status relationship with European Union. Bagis replied that “Turkey is a candidate for full membership of the EU and any alternative is not accepted.”</p>
<p>Moreover, Egemen Bagis argued that “the European Union should prove it wants to be an alliance of civilisations… We will part of the solution and not part of the problem of the EU.”</p>
<p><strong>Cyprus</strong></p>
<p>With regards to Cyprus, the Minister expressed the official view that Turkey will support any solution that is agreed by the leaders of the island’s two sides. Furthermore, he praised the efforts of the two Presidents, Talat and Christofias, and stressed that Greece and Turkey should support the two presidents sooner rather than later. “Their term is limited and we do not know who will govern next. We must help these guys.”</p>
<p>Another interesting point arose from a question raised by a citizen with regard to the presence of the Turkish Army in Cyprus. Bagis said that the Turkish Army protects the safety of the Turk-Cypriots and it will not withdraw unless all the other armies withdrew too.</p>
<p>Quite clearly, there’s still a long way to go.</p>
<p>From a journalistic and more personal perspective, Egemen Bagis’s most interesting moment was when he praised the Greek citizens who contribute to the Turkish newspapers and the Turkish Citizens who contribute to the Greek newspapers.</p>
<p>In conclusion, Bagis left Greece with a strong impression of a political personality committed to peace.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Guest post by Christos Loutradis Following our coverage of this month&#8217;s Greek elections, The Third Estate continues its partnership with Press-Gr, one of the foremost news sites in Greece, by inviting Christos Loutradis to look at the country&#8217;s thawing relations with Turkey. Where a Prime Minister chooses to visit on his or her first trip [...]]]></description>
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<p><strong>Guest post by <a href="http://press-gr.blogspot.com/">Christos Loutradis</a></strong></p>
<p><strong>Following our coverage of this month&#8217;s Greek elections, The Third Estate continues its partnership with <a href="http://press-gr.blogspot.com/">Press-Gr</a>, one of the foremost news sites in Greece, by inviting Christos Loutradis to look at the country&#8217;s thawing relations with Turkey.</strong></p>
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<p>Where a Prime Minister chooses to visit on his or her first trip abroad is often a telling sign of their foreign policy priorities. Interestingly, of all the places he could have gone, newly elected social democrat, George Papandreou, made the decision to visit that old enemy Turkey. Papandreou’s election signals a significant shift in foreign policy from the days of his conservative predecessor. One that is open, tolerant and ‘aggressive’, but, with luck, in a constructive way.</p>
<p>Has Greece finally woken up?  This is the central question of the lips of the nation, from leading analysts in political and media circles, to the demos themselves.</p>
<p>Speaking in Istanbul, Papandreou heralded a new beginning in Greece&#8217;s policy towards the Cyprus Issue. “We must allow the two communities in Cyprus to solve their disputes solely alone, without depending on other states or international super-powers,” he said. Papandreou’s statement came as he publicly confirmed his pledge to support Turkey’s candidacy for European Union membership, under the condition that Turkey commits to preventing dogfights over the Aegean Sea.</p>
<p>Meanwhile Turkish Prime Minister, Tayyip Erdogan, is trying to foster the public image of a European politician reaching out to his neighbours in an attempt to resolve the ongoing disputes, most notably with Greece and Armenia. Papandreou’s visit is important to this process of conflict resolution, not because anything concrete was agreed but because of the semiotics. And in our modern mass mediated era, semiotics are important in and of themselves.</p>
<p>As for the Greek media, it has lauded the newly elected Prime Minister for choosing Turkey as his first overseas destination, suggesting a new era between the two nations has begun despite the diplomatic woes waiting to be solved.</p>
<p>“The Greeks have realised that Greece and Turkey should live in harmony because friendly relations are the only way to solve all the heated internal problems,” Greek journalist John Papadimitriou told us. “The media just followed society’s preference.”</p>
<p>The pro-government newspaper, Ta Nea, said Papandreou was in favor of dialogue between Ankara and Athens, but added that he would not accept what it called a “rubber check” from Turkey. The conservative newspaper, Kathimerini, said Papandreou’s meeting with the Turkish Prime Minister would have a “positive impact,” and also drew attention to the Greek Prime Minister’s remarks in which he said the European Union should listen to the Turkish people. The leading political website, Zougla, said Papandreou has declared “a new era of diplomacy” just a few days after his election victory.</p>
<p>“Papandreou will continue the friendly approach toward Turkey he pursued in the early 2000s with the efforts of late Turkish Foreign Minister İsmail Cem,” a professor of International Relations at the University of Panteion in Athens, who wished to remain anonymous, told the Daily News. “If he succeeds, the Prime Minister will move forward in solving all of the issues between Greece and Turkey. In my opinion the main problem is the Cyprus issue, which should bother neither Turkey nor Greece,” the professor said.</p>
<p>Another academic specialising in international relations, Alexis Irakleidis, called for a discussion on different approaches regarding the Aegean problem. “The Greek government should understand that President Barack Obama&#8217;s foreign policy will not accept Greece as a good guy and Turkey as a bad one. We should sit down and discuss the situation in the Aegean.”</p>
<p>Whatever happens next, this is undoubtedly a positive first step.</p>
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